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Old February 14 2010, 08:45 PM   #151
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I didn't find his Kirk to be comical
No? Seemed to me that NuKirk's 'character arc' (and I use the term in the loosest possible sense) was essentially a series of strung-together slapstick, pratfalls and outright vaudeville, wrapped in a smarmy, breezy performance that was essentially an extended James Dean parody. Only occasionally was the character played straight. NuKirk was like NuScotty, making up for the extreme self-satire of the latter by the sheer quantity of farce around the former.

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Old February 14 2010, 10:00 PM   #152
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Shatner established Kirk having a certain charming over-the-top-ness, which I guess is what you interpret as comedy, which isn't surprising - there's a good reason why Shatner's Kirk has been parodied so incessantly. But without that element, we no longer have Kirk. It's like expecting Spock to not have that barely-hidden arch sarcasm or McCoy not to fly off the handle every so often.
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Old February 14 2010, 10:25 PM   #153
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But that doesn't allow any new actors to put their own spin on the character themselves. That would be like if the actors playing all the Doctors post-Hartnell weren't allowed to do their own thing.
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Old February 14 2010, 10:26 PM   #154
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Pine certainly did his own thing while remaining true to the character. Isn't that what we wanted him to do?
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Old February 14 2010, 10:28 PM   #155
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Yes, which means he doesn't have to ape Shatner's colossal hamminess. Being a ham isn't an intrinsic part of Kirk, merely being a guy who doesn't always play by the rules while struggling to stay within the spirit of the law.
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Old February 15 2010, 12:40 PM   #156
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Kirk senior is going to be Thor, while Nero has already been the Hulk. I think everyone in that movie should end up as a superhero

Zachary Quinto for Sub-Mariner (Namor always had Spock ears anyway)

Zoe Saldana for Storm

Anton Yelchin for Spider-Man

Simon Pegg for someone in his buddy Edgar Wright's version of Antman

What about Karl Urban? Any ideas.
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Old February 15 2010, 04:49 PM   #157
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Karl Urban as Hawkeye. Why not?
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Old February 15 2010, 05:02 PM   #158
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^That'll do nicely. Thanks.
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Old February 15 2010, 05:13 PM   #159
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No problem!

And I can definitely see Zoe Saldana as Storm . . . .
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Old February 15 2010, 07:27 PM   #160
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I didn't find his Kirk to be comical (certainly not compared with the original!!)...
Nor did I - just a fairly relaxed and humorous personality.

Certainly far preferable to seeing Shatner take one more tedious and hammy run at the part.
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Old February 15 2010, 08:51 PM   #161
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Karl Urban as... wait for it... wait for it... WINTER SOLDIER BUCKY!

Yes... you may hold your applause
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Old February 15 2010, 08:56 PM   #162
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Being a ham isn't an intrinsic part of Kirk,
Well it used to be an intrinsic part of Kirk. And it would have been fun to see Pine hang onto that aspect of the character, to some degree. But it's just impossible to see how it could have been done without becoming absurd, so they were right to drop it.

Overall, Trek XI showed good sense about what to keep and what to drop. For instance, a lot about Uhura was dropped, to very good effect, but very little was changed about McCoy and Spock, because they didn't need it.

Zachary Quinto for Sub-Mariner (Namor always had Spock ears anyway)
Wentworth Miller needs to hit the gym and get himself some abs. Then he'd be a great Namor! Besides, Zach will be busy playing Barnabas in my TV remake of Dark Shadows.
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Old February 15 2010, 09:19 PM   #163
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^ I'd rather see Wentworth as Matt Murdock in the Daredevil reboot.
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Old February 15 2010, 10:58 PM   #164
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I'd rather have Michael C Hall as Daredevil.
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Old February 16 2010, 12:02 AM   #165
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Shouldn't that be "Spock always had Namor's ears"?
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