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Old January 30 2010, 08:17 PM   #16
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

Screw Britain. How would a 6-hour miniseries help a network like the CW, which has to deliver at least 10 hours of primetime programming per week?
Yeah. You gotta consider the business model that networks (on air or cable) operate under before saying what they should or shouldn't do. What the people who make programming decisions are going to is make the boss happy so they can keep their jobs. Whether or not they "should" be doing this (what does that even mean?) doesn't matter. They are going to do it, for the same reason we all try to make the boss happy so we can keep our jobs.

So knowing that their goal is to maximize their career and earning potential, what are they likely to do or not do? Try to create hit series that maximize an audience for the longest possible period of time. TV is a hit-driven business. Nobody really knows what's going to work, and most of what they attempt fails, so a few big hits have got to pay for all the flops.

Nobody can afford to deliberately try not to maximize earning potential unless they want to hit the unemployment line. Every show they attempt must be treated as a potential hit until proven otherwise. If it weren't considered a potential hit, nobody would be trying it in the first place.

Even if some network were to say, hey let's do a six-hour show, if the ratings are sufficient, it will be expanded to a longer format. If they ratings are not sufficient, it will be cancelled. Same as if they'd planned for it to be of indefinite duration, so why not just plan for it to be of indefinite duration to begin with and scrap the pretense that it could be otherwise?

This season we saw what happened when a network (NBC) thought they had a better way of programming for primetime.
That's a somewhat different mistake from deliberately limiting the run of a show, but the same sort of mistake - there was no way Leno was ever going to be a hit of the sort that can pay for a lineup of flops that every network has to expect, even ones less lame than NBC. They forgot their business model, which is that if you waste timeslots on shows you know won't be hits, you're never going to get the hits you need to survive. And indeed - NBC has no hits. Idiots.
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Old January 30 2010, 08:32 PM   #17
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

The Nikita tv-show was objectively really terrible, but I still liked it, don't know why.
I hated the guy with the long chin though, whatever his name was.
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Old January 30 2010, 08:43 PM   #18
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

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The Nikita tv-show was objectively really terrible
I disagree. It was a niche show and particularly hokey, but not terrible.
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Old January 30 2010, 08:49 PM   #19
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

Well, when I watched it, it aired at 12:30 pm, right after (or before, I'm not sure) the Mortal Kombat tv series, which was also terrible, but was possibly the tv show with the hottest babes ever, maybe that didn't do Nikita justice for me.
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Old January 30 2010, 09:59 PM   #20
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I wonder if this one will have Nikita guilty of murder or not. The TV series kind of wimped out on that.
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Old January 30 2010, 10:11 PM   #21
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

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The Nikita tv-show was objectively really terrible, but I still liked it, don't know why.
It was not terrible at all. I have read that it was the unspoken inspiration for Alias.
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Old January 30 2010, 10:21 PM   #22
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

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The Nikita tv-show was objectively really terrible, but I still liked it, don't know why.
It was not terrible at all. I have read that it was the unspoken inspiration for Alias.
You have your series mixed up. La Femme Nikita and its various double-agent / government subterfuge plots were a direct inspiration for 24, and producer Joel Surnow has confirmed this on multiple accounts.

Although Nikita was absolutely terrible, outside of the inexplicably charismatic presence of Eugene Robert Glazer.
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Old January 30 2010, 10:25 PM   #23
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

I'm sorry, I didn't know the show had so many fans. Maybe my memories of it aren't accurate, I mostly remember it for the hot lead actress, the milfy boss, ridiculous action scenes and lots of faux-european posing.
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Old January 31 2010, 12:37 AM   #24
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It was not terrible at all. I have read that it was the unspoken inspiration for Alias.
You have your series mixed up. La Femme Nikita and its various double-agent / government subterfuge plots were a direct inspiration for 24, and producer Joel Surnow has confirmed this on multiple accounts.
Spare me your trademark pedantry. I merely said that Alias owes something to La Femme Nikita. I didn't deny the possible influence of Nikita on other series.

BTW, everyone knows that Nikita influenced 24. Key personnel like Robert Cochran and Jon Cassar worked on both programs. Apologies to your friend Joel Surnow.
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Old January 31 2010, 01:52 AM   #25
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Re: CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"

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The Nikita tv-show was objectively really terrible, but I still liked it, don't know why.
I hated the guy with the long chin though, whatever his name was.
Well if it's Michael (Nikita's on-again/off-again friend with benefits) then you're not along - the acting ability and charisma of a block of wood with that.

If it's the older guy Paul (Operations) well he's a bastard and you're supposed to hate him.
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Old January 31 2010, 02:57 AM   #26
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It was not terrible at all. I have read that it was the unspoken inspiration for Alias.
You have your series mixed up. La Femme Nikita and its various double-agent / government subterfuge plots were a direct inspiration for 24, and producer Joel Surnow has confirmed this on multiple accounts.
Spare me your trademark pedantry. I merely said that Alias owes something to La Femme Nikita. I didn't deny the possible influence of Nikita on other series.

BTW, everyone knows that Nikita influenced 24. Key personnel like Robert Cochran and Jon Cassar worked on both programs. Apologies to your friend Joel Surnow.
Spare me your condescension. What the heck is your problem?
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Old January 31 2010, 04:25 AM   #27
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My problem, Timby, is that you jumped in to lecture me on a very minor point. Try a more amiable or tempered approach next time. It's not necessary to play the expert every time.
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Old January 31 2010, 08:23 AM   #28
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Well if it's Michael (Nikita's on-again/off-again friend with benefits) then you're not along - the acting ability and charisma of a block of wood with that.

If it's the older guy Paul (Operations) well he's a bastard and you're supposed to hate him.
No, I meant the young guy, the old guy was cool.
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Old January 31 2010, 08:26 AM   #29
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I guess Hollywood's unoriginality has reached the point of no return.

Indeed.

It almost feels like we've been stabbed in the hand; hopefully, it'll be good, so it won't be canceled.

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Old February 1 2010, 01:57 AM   #30
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CW is quickly becoming a network of remakes. Seriously how many of their series are not just remakes but blatant remakes not even disguised as new or different? I'm not trashing the network exactly, they do have Supernatural which IMO is great, and they have Smallville, which I don't watch but somehow is still chugging along after a decade? Pretty impressive for a series I didn't think would last 3 or 4 seasons, regardless of quality.
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