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Old March 7 2010, 05:58 PM   #796
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Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please)

It occurs to me nobody's mentioned Warren Keffer yet, but then, he hasn't really done anything at this point,


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I can only agree, while Na'Toth was never all that interesting the original actress at least gave her some personality while this new actress just feels bland.
Quite. It's a pity as I remember Mary Kay Adams as being pretty good as Grilka in her two DS9 appearances. But then haven't seen those episodes in years, my memory may be playing with me.
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Old March 7 2010, 06:25 PM   #797
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I can only agree, while Na'Toth was never all that interesting the original actress at least gave her some personality while this new actress just feels bland.
Quite. It's a pity as I remember Mary Kay Adams as being pretty good as Grilka in her two DS9 appearances. But then haven't seen those episodes in years, my memory may be playing with me.
JMS said something about how, in the second episode of season two, he needed G'Kar to talk to someone that he reasonably trusted, and there was only Na'Toth. Recasting the actress made more sense then creating a new character completely. But it's true, with either actress, Na'Toth never "popped" like Vir or Lennier.
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Old March 7 2010, 10:11 PM   #798
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Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please)

I have to wonder, after he's finished watching the series, if Godben's gonna go back and read all these spoiler tags?

Revelations was good, though I felt ol' Bruce was given some really heavy material for only his second episode. Not sure if he was able to pull that kind of drama so soon. Quite liked Garibaldi's interrogation though.

Next episode's a great one! Well, maybe not, but it does feature the B5 premier of my favorite director across both B5 and DS9. (edit: plus, the DVD commentary's a hoot, though I'd hold off listening to it since there's a number of spoilers in it )
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Old March 8 2010, 01:23 AM   #799
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I have to wonder, after he's finished watching the series, if Godben's gonna go back and read all these spoiler tags?
Only if I remain unemployed after leaving college.

I really shouldn't laugh, it's probably going to happen.
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Old March 8 2010, 03:04 AM   #800
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I have to wonder, after he's finished watching the series, if Godben's gonna go back and read all these spoiler tags?
Only if I remain unemployed after leaving college.

I really shouldn't laugh, it's probably going to happen.
There are always jobs in food service.
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Old March 8 2010, 03:08 AM   #801
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Oh, those dark cauldrons I have trod. When I feel their hellish, greasy flames lick at my feet, I run a little faster.

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Old March 8 2010, 03:16 AM   #802
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I have to wonder, after he's finished watching the series, if Godben's gonna go back and read all these spoiler tags?
Only if I remain unemployed after leaving college.

I really shouldn't laugh, it's probably going to happen.
Maybe then is when you need to watch the series - and fill us in on your views - the most.
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Old March 8 2010, 04:33 AM   #803
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I have to wonder, after he's finished watching the series, if Godben's gonna go back and read all these spoiler tags?
Only if I remain unemployed after leaving college.

I really shouldn't laugh, it's probably going to happen.
Ha! I hear you on that one.

*nervous laugh, looking at frighteningly blank post-April schedule*
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Old March 8 2010, 04:34 AM   #804
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I have to wonder, after he's finished watching the series, if Godben's gonna go back and read all these spoiler tags?
Only if I remain unemployed after leaving college.

I really shouldn't laugh, it's probably going to happen.
Ha! I hear you on that one.

*nervous laugh, looking at frighteningly blank post-April schedule*
I've been graduated for 2 years, and bartending at TGI Fridays is still the best thing I've been able to find.
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Old March 8 2010, 06:30 AM   #805
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Starbrow;3894770]Was wondering, what did you though about his " speech "?
I was a bit thrown by him calling Lincoln an "old Earth President" because Lincoln wasn't President of Earth, he was President of some United States over thataway. I know JMS probably phrased it that way for brevity because saying "an old President of one of Earth's historic nation-states" might have been a bit much, and he was writing for an American audience so he probably didn't care.

Other than that, it was a standard television speech, it was no "The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels tonight."
This is what I thought:

Sheridan: "When I was 21.."

Me, interrupting: "I SAW A GAZELLE BEING BORN.."

Everyone falls off the couch laughing.. had to rewind the dvd to hear the speech.

That about sums it up.
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Old March 8 2010, 11:59 AM   #806
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Starbrow;3894770]Was wondering, what did you though about his " speech "?
I was a bit thrown by him calling Lincoln an "old Earth President" because Lincoln wasn't President of Earth, he was President of some United States over thataway. I know JMS probably phrased it that way for brevity because saying "an old President of one of Earth's historic nation-states" might have been a bit much, and he was writing for an American audience so he probably didn't care.

Other than that, it was a standard television speech, it was no "The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels tonight."
This is what I thought:

Sheridan: "When I was 21.."

Me, interrupting: "I SAW A GAZELLE BEING BORN.."

Everyone falls off the couch laughing.. had to rewind the dvd to hear the speech.

That about sums it up.
Sheridan's speech was a good luck speech and given almost a decade before Archer's speech there's no connection between the two.
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Old March 8 2010, 06:37 PM   #807
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RoJoHen wrote: View Post
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I have to wonder, after he's finished watching the series, if Godben's gonna go back and read all these spoiler tags?
Only if I remain unemployed after leaving college.

I really shouldn't laugh, it's probably going to happen.
There are always jobs in food service.
Would you like spoo with that?
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Old March 8 2010, 06:43 PM   #808
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There are always jobs in food service.
What do I look like, a robot?

Hmm, I suppose I could build a bartending robot, have it take your job and keep all the money for myself! Wait, the hydrogen fuel-cells would make it uneconomical. I guess I'll let you keep your job and I'll sit around all day reading spoiler tags.

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Ha! I hear you on that one.

*nervous laugh, looking at frighteningly blank post-April schedule*
Luckily for me I have a thesis to keep me distracted!

So I'll read the spoiler tags between May and the third week in August, then I'll panic and throw something together in two weeks. And if I fail then that only means I'll have something to occupy my time come September.

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This is what I thought:

Sheridan: "When I was 21.."

Me, interrupting: "I SAW A GAZELLE BEING BORN.."
Tee hee hee. Scott Bakula made a funny.


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Technomages. Oh, goodie.

Sorry, but this is just one of those things I find too silly to take seriously. I realise that they don't really do magic and that everything they do is based on science, but if the future is going to have bands of people like this roving the galaxy then I'm going to chop my nuts off just to ensure that none of my descendants have to meet them.

Only joking, ladies. You can keep that hope alive.

The one moment I did like about this plot was the final scene between Elric and Londo. So Londo is this show's Gul Dukat, eh? I didn't see that one coming. I guess Kegg is right, nobody on this show is as they first seem.

As for the b-plot, I loved the simplicity of the greens and purples killing one another for such a silly reason. Well, it's silly to me, I'm sure it makes sense to them. The ending was a bit too easy, and while I admired the fact that Garibaldi was questioning his competence as security chief, I can't say I was thrilled by the way it was resolved. It was a little too TV-like, which isn't what I expect from a... television show.

I'm feeling very tired today, does it show?

Oh bugger, I nearly forgot Scott Bakula!

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Old March 8 2010, 06:47 PM   #809
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The Techno-mages aren't seen much in B5 (since they're going into hiding, that's not surprising). They have a somewhat more visible profile in the short-lived spin-off.

It wasn't until I read the novels, specifics the Passing of the Techno-Mages trilogy, that I really came to appreciate their potential as characters. Basically, these guys are the Jedi of B5.
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Old March 8 2010, 06:57 PM   #810
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As for the b-plot, I loved the simplicity of the greens and purples killing one another for such a silly reason. Well, it's silly to me, I'm sure it makes sense to them.
I love the Drazi. I've always considered them the heart of Babylon Five.

Why are you so opposed to each other? Why are you fighting? Can't you see you're actually no different in any meaningful way?!

Narns and Centauri
Minbari and humans
Mundanes and telepaths
Earth and Mars

Green and Purple.

One of those on this list is different, because they actually know the two sides are really essentially alike. The Drazi are quite wise really. No, honestly. They actually openly admit the two sides have no real differences, and that the reasons for hating are artificial because they're making artificial differences.

They've taken the opposing forces of order and chaos and made them work together- chaos is order for them, order is chaos. Their unified government stems from a division and a conflict. They are united as a people by the division.

They're a wise race in their way (I'd say in some ways wiser than humans, Narn, Centauri and Minbari), but everyone underestimates them because they speak in macros and like brawling.

No-one here is exactly as they appear...
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