A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) - Page 21

CorporalClegg · February 3 2010, 11:22 PM

Kegg wrote:

A suggestion about DVD credits: Skip the season two credits for the first two episodes, they're spoilerific as well.

There are also a few slight spoilers in the season 3 credits and I suppose one could make an argument for season 4 as well.

I never thought "clip" credits were a good idea.

Lindley · February 3 2010, 11:25 PM

That isn't what's being referred to here. Don't avoid the credits in general, they're pretty awesome.

A similar although less notable mistake occurs in season 4, when

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Hyperspace05 · February 4 2010, 01:27 AM

Well I guess the thread title wasn't obvious enough with its "(NO spoilers, please)"...

Lindley · February 4 2010, 03:33 AM

Anything behind spoiler tags is fine, so long as it doesn't devolve into a conversation entirely in spoiler tags (which I've seen happen a few times). That's just common sense.

Hyperspace05 · February 4 2010, 05:46 AM

Well, your post was mostly spoiler tag, is it not?

It's just common sense not to derail the conversation with stuff that the OP/reviewer hasn't even touched on - opening credit sequences and stuff happening in season 4!

Common sense and OP requests apply to moderators as well, I would think.

Neroon · February 4 2010, 06:16 AM

Yes it does apply to them, and Lindley understands that as well as, if not better than anyone. His post had material that added to the thread and yet still hid the appropriate material behind the tags, which seems to fit everyone's needs doesn't it?

If there is a problem with spoilers. just notify and the mods for this forum will handle it.

Lindley · February 4 2010, 06:25 AM

Hyperspace05 wrote:

Well, your post was mostly spoiler tag, is it not?

It's just common sense not to derail the conversation with stuff that the OP/reviewer hasn't even touched on - opening credit sequences and stuff happening in season 4!

Common sense and OP requests apply to moderators as well, I would think.

To that point I was speaking in generalities intentionally. But CorporalClegg seemed to be misunderstanding, so I had to clarify what I and Kegg were suggesting for his benefit. In order to do so, I had to use spoiler tags, because there's no other way to get sufficiently specific.

The second spoiler tag was an aside about a related oversight in the DVD creation process.

Happy? I'd rather not drag this further off-topic.

Jan · February 4 2010, 12:55 PM

There were a couple of scenes in the script for "The Parliament of Dreams" that never made it to the final episode. In one, Sinclair goes to visit Ambassador Kosh to invite him to participate in the festival but is rebuffed. In the other, Sinclair and Ivanova discuss the assassination attempt against Kosh while watching some Drazi religious fireworks outside the station.

Jan

Forbin · February 4 2010, 03:09 PM

EDIT

Whoops - pleaz ignore. I made a joke about kosh that, I just realized, is a season 2 spoiler.

CorporalClegg · February 4 2010, 04:04 PM

Lindley wrote:

To that point I was speaking in generalities intentionally. But CorporalClegg seemed to be misunderstanding, so I had to clarify what I and Kegg were suggesting for his benefit. In order to do so, I had to use spoiler tags, because there's no other way to get sufficiently specific.

The second spoiler tag was an aside about a related oversight in the DVD creation process.

Happy? I'd rather not drag this further off-topic.

And for the record, I new what you were talking about--the season 4 reference was the same.

With season 3, I was talking about

Though I don't know if whats originally aired that way.

Now that we're all on the same page...

Seven of Five · February 4 2010, 07:37 PM

This thread scares me. Five episodes in and we're on page 8?

I rather like Parliament of Dreams, in spite of it's cheesiness. The religious lineup at the end of the episode is in particular a favourite scene. I enjoyed the introduction of Na'Toth as well. She seemed like someone who could give G'Kar a run for his money, but who throws her full weight behind him to serve and honour.

Wasn't it also the first episode with the full ensamble in it?

The extra bits in the script that never made it to air are also interesting.

RandyS · February 4 2010, 10:09 PM

Seven Of Five wrote:

This thread scares me. Five episodes in and we're on page 8?

My count reads page 21.

tomalak301 · February 4 2010, 10:13 PM

RandyS wrote:

Seven Of Five wrote:

This thread scares me. Five episodes in and we're on page 8?

My count reads page 21.

You can go change your defaults to like 50 posts per page. Makes thing smaller that way in my opinion.

apenpaap · February 4 2010, 10:22 PM

RandyS wrote:

Seven Of Five wrote:

This thread scares me. Five episodes in and we're on page 8?

My count reads page 21.

It's page 13 on mine.

Kegg · February 4 2010, 10:25 PM

Seven Of Five wrote:

Wasn't it also the first episode with the full ensamble in it?

Did it? I don't seem to remember Talia Winters, say, but maybe she was in that episode. I'd be curious if there were any episodes of any season that had the full ensemble listed in the credits; actually, it'd strike me as a rather rare occurrence. Unlike Star Trek B5 is seldom keen on that idea.

February 3 2010, 11:25 PM	#302
Lindley Moderator with a Soul Location: Fairfax, VA	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) That isn't what's being referred to here. Don't avoid the credits in general, they're pretty awesome. It's in reference to the wrong credit sequence being used in the first two episodes, and thus showing Delenn's new appearance too soon. I believe the original version also credited Ivanova as a Lt. Commander for those first two. A similar although less notable mistake occurs in season 4, when the credits which name Zack as the security chief rather than Garibaldi, originally used for about half the season, never appear. [ __________________ Lead Organizer for EVN: Firefly. "So apparently the really smart zombies have automatic weapons!" -Torg, Sluggy Freelance

February 4 2010, 01:27 AM	#303
Hyperspace05 Commodore	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) Well I guess the thread title wasn't obvious enough with its "(NO spoilers, please)"...

February 4 2010, 03:33 AM	#304
Lindley Moderator with a Soul Location: Fairfax, VA	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) Anything behind spoiler tags is fine, so long as it doesn't devolve into a conversation entirely in spoiler tags (which I've seen happen a few times). That's just common sense. __________________ Lead Organizer for EVN: Firefly. "So apparently the really smart zombies have automatic weapons!" -Torg, Sluggy Freelance

February 4 2010, 05:46 AM	#305
Hyperspace05 Commodore	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) Well, your post was mostly spoiler tag, is it not? It's just common sense not to derail the conversation with stuff that the OP/reviewer hasn't even touched on - opening credit sequences and stuff happening in season 4! Common sense and OP requests apply to moderators as well, I would think.

February 4 2010, 06:16 AM	#306
Neroon Memory and awareness Location: On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling thru the galaxy	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) Yes it does apply to them, and Lindley understands that as well as, if not better than anyone. His post had material that added to the thread and yet still hid the appropriate material behind the tags, which seems to fit everyone's needs doesn't it? If there is a problem with spoilers. just notify and the mods for this forum will handle it. __________________ “You break through the veil whenever you strap on a sword or chant the ancient verses. You escape when you write a poem or a tale that brings beauty into the world. You are set free whenever you love—even those who believe you’re crazy." ~ Jef Murray, 'Seer: A Wizard's Journal'

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February 4 2010, 12:55 PM	#308
Jan Commodore Location: ...is insane. --JMS	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) There were a couple of scenes in the script for "The Parliament of Dreams" that never made it to the final episode. In one, Sinclair goes to visit Ambassador Kosh to invite him to participate in the festival but is rebuffed. In the other, Sinclair and Ivanova discuss the assassination attempt against Kosh while watching some Drazi religious fireworks outside the station. Jan __________________ "[We have] no religion save for the sanctity of life; no law but one: be kind to one another." -Twilight Zone "The Wall" J. Michael Straczynski

February 4 2010, 03:09 PM	#309
Forbin Admiral Location: I said out, dammit!	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) EDIT Whoops - pleaz ignore. I made a joke about kosh that, I just realized, is a season 2 spoiler. __________________ My kitbashes: http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbash/trekpage.html My Kitbash Wallpapers: http://www.inpayne.com/models/wallpa...allpapers.html My kitbash calendar: http://inpayne.com/calendar/kbcalendar2013.html

February 4 2010, 07:37 PM	#311
Seven of Five Commodore Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom	Re: A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please) This thread scares me. Five episodes in and we're on page 8? I rather like Parliament of Dreams, in spite of it's cheesiness. The religious lineup at the end of the episode is in particular a favourite scene. I enjoyed the introduction of Na'Toth as well. She seemed like someone who could give G'Kar a run for his money, but who throws her full weight behind him to serve and honour. Wasn't it also the first episode with the full ensamble in it? The extra bits in the script that never made it to air are also interesting.