Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS>

Meredith · January 2 2010, 06:21 AM

Actually it explains a whole lot...

26138 · January 2 2010, 07:02 AM

It could be made of less dense material, so the gravity wouldn't be so bad.

BlastHardcheese · January 2 2010, 08:32 AM

Or time lord technology reduces the effects.

Awesome Possum · January 2 2010, 08:54 AM

BlastHardcheese wrote:

Or time lord technology reduces the effects.

They still would had to evolve with the gravity and would likely have no reason to change it. It would be like us reducing the gravity of Earth.

Cutter John · January 2 2010, 09:35 AM

Or perhaps it just a manifestation of the time bubble and not a physical object at all.

JoeZhang · January 2 2010, 11:46 AM

Meredith wrote:

Actually it explains a whole lot...

If that was true, that would have been squat little creatures - you only need very minor changes in gravity to have great changes of the evolution of a race. It would not lead to super-strength (Superman) or two hearts.

BlastHardcheese · January 2 2010, 04:32 PM

What amazes me even more is that nobody has nitpicked about the fact that a planet the size of Gallifrey appearing closer to the earth than the moon would tear the earth apart from the tidal forces.

In fact, Gallifrey appeared as close to the Earth as GPS satellites are. I won't buy any BS that it was all a projection/illusion or a "manifestation of the time bubble" for two reasons.

1. The time lords and the president were very real. The doctor even stated they were bringing back not just the race, but the whole planet.

2. It caused very real earthquakes. The ground shook. A projection does not do that.

RTD & Co. may not have realised exactly how much damage a planet 5 times as massive as the earth would do if it appeared at such a close proximity. When Gallifrey first appeared and was still some distance away, I do not doubt that its own gravity would've immediately begun pulling people off the earth's surface and into space towards it. At the same time, the earth would fall down onto Gallifrey within minutes and shatter both planets.

JoeZhang · January 2 2010, 04:34 PM

BlastHardcheese wrote:

RTD & Co. may not have realised exactly how much damage a planet 5 times as massive as the earth would do if it appeared at such a close proximity.

I suspect that they simply didn't care - Doctor Who is a fantasy show with a few Sci-fi trappings.

Timofnine · January 2 2010, 04:57 PM

My theory (that explains all this perfectly!) is that Gallifrey is made of a much less dense material then most other planets... maybe a thin crust over a molten core which has 'shrunk'. Think of it a bit like a natural dysons sphere with people living on the outside. This way, the planet could be 5 times bigger then earth, but more or less dense.

Bah, it's science fantasy anyway, who cares

Awesome Possum · January 2 2010, 05:48 PM

JoeZhang wrote:

BlastHardcheese wrote:

RTD & Co. may not have realised exactly how much damage a planet 5 times as massive as the earth would do if it appeared at such a close proximity.

I suspect that they simply didn't care - Doctor Who is a fantasy show with a few Sci-fi trappings.

Yeah, if you want to get all nit-picky time travel is probably impossible.

BlastHardcheese · January 2 2010, 06:58 PM

Awesome Possum wrote:

Yeah, if you want to get all nit-picky time travel is probably impossible.

There are many astrophysicists who would eagerly dispute that point with you. But what they would not dispute is that a planet the size of Gallifrey coming so close to Earth would turn the Earth inside-out even before it completely filled the sky.

Timofnine · January 2 2010, 07:09 PM

BlastHardcheese wrote:

Awesome Possum wrote:

Yeah, if you want to get all nit-picky time travel is probably impossible.

There are many astrophysicists who would eagerly dispute that point with you. But what they would not dispute is that a planet the size of Gallifrey coming so close to Earth would turn the Earth inside-out even before it completely filled the sky.

Erm, unless there was a fantasy reason like I mentioned above for it not to crush earth. Don't take it so seriously. Do you think Joe public cared?

Cutter John · January 2 2010, 07:28 PM

Well lets see. I can either chalk it up to, 'OMG RTD sucks!' or try to come up with some way to explain it. I choose the latter. So if I've decided its a time bubble, or it was Gallifrey (in which case its a giant ball of flaming gas) but it hasn't fully become corporal yet, well thats my prerogative.

Awesome Possum · January 2 2010, 07:53 PM

I'm going with "it's just a show, I really should relax". Helps me with most things.

USS KG5 · January 2 2010, 10:58 PM

Awesome Possum wrote:

I'm going with "it's just a show, I really should relax". Helps me with most things.

Seconded.

January 2 2010, 06:21 AM	#1
Meredith Vice Admiral Location: Abh Space	Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> When we saw Galifrey appear over earth it looked 2-3 times as large and it probably a few more times massive. So Galifrey looks to be one of those "Super Earths" that the planet hunters are talking about. With a planet that much larger the gravity must totally suck, but of course with gravity like that you would need 2 hearts to keep the blood going to your brain. That and it also explains why the doctor can run like a maniac on earth and never really be that far out of breath. Actually it explains a whole lot... __________________ Laws only work if everyone is honest, no piece of paper is going to stop a truly deranged person from doing something atrocious.

January 2 2010, 07:02 AM	#2
26138 Fleet Captain	Re: Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> It could be made of less dense material, so the gravity wouldn't be so bad. __________________ Samuel T. Cogley: And is there any way we can make the saucer section look more like a sombrero? Or maybe put a sombrero on top of the saucer section?

January 2 2010, 08:32 AM	#3
BlastHardcheese Lieutenant Commander	Re: Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> Or time lord technology reduces the effects.

January 2 2010, 09:35 AM	#5
Cutter John Rear Admiral Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.	Re: Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> Or perhaps it just a manifestation of the time bubble and not a physical object at all. __________________ "The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."

January 2 2010, 04:32 PM	#7
BlastHardcheese Lieutenant Commander	Re: Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> What amazes me even more is that nobody has nitpicked about the fact that a planet the size of Gallifrey appearing closer to the earth than the moon would tear the earth apart from the tidal forces. In fact, Gallifrey appeared as close to the Earth as GPS satellites are. I won't buy any BS that it was all a projection/illusion or a "manifestation of the time bubble" for two reasons. 1. The time lords and the president were very real. The doctor even stated they were bringing back not just the race, but the whole planet. 2. It caused very real earthquakes. The ground shook. A projection does not do that. RTD & Co. may not have realised exactly how much damage a planet 5 times as massive as the earth would do if it appeared at such a close proximity. When Gallifrey first appeared and was still some distance away, I do not doubt that its own gravity would've immediately begun pulling people off the earth's surface and into space towards it. At the same time, the earth would fall down onto Gallifrey within minutes and shatter both planets. Last edited by BlastHardcheese; January 2 2010 at 04:44 PM.

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January 2 2010, 04:57 PM	#9
Timofnine Moderator Location: The World	Re: Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> My theory (that explains all this perfectly!) is that Gallifrey is made of a much less dense material then most other planets... maybe a thin crust over a molten core which has 'shrunk'. Think of it a bit like a natural dysons sphere with people living on the outside. This way, the planet could be 5 times bigger then earth, but more or less dense. Bah, it's science fantasy anyway, who cares __________________ Timofnine

January 2 2010, 07:28 PM	#13
Cutter John Rear Admiral Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.	Re: Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> Well lets see. I can either chalk it up to, 'OMG RTD sucks!' or try to come up with some way to explain it. I choose the latter. So if I've decided its a time bubble, or it was Gallifrey (in which case its a giant ball of flaming gas) but it hasn't fully become corporal yet, well thats my prerogative. __________________ "The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."

January 2 2010, 07:53 PM	#14
Awesome Possum Herald of the Ponies Location: Jewel HQ	Re: Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS> I'm going with "it's just a show, I really should relax". Helps me with most things. __________________ I am at heart a propagandist, a tremendous hater, a tiresome nag, complacently positive that there is no human problem which could not be solved if people would simply do as I advise. -Gore Vidal