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Old January 10 2010, 05:45 AM   #1
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What is the blue hue???

While watching a few episode of TNG and DS9, and watching the end credits, I noticed a strange blue hue in the lower left and upper left corners. I realize they are playing a loop that was actually used during the opening credits of TNG, after the Enterprise zooms away...but why OR what is causing that blue hue???

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Old January 10 2010, 06:03 AM   #2
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Re: What is the blue hue???

I have always noticed that too. But I have no idea what it is or where it is coming from, unless it is a reflection on the starfield. (The starfields for TNG and DS9 were actually produced by filming inside a large half cylinder of black plex that had hundreds of tiny holes drilled into it and lit from behind.)
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Old January 10 2010, 06:08 AM   #3
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I have always noticed that too. But I have no idea what it is or where it is coming from, unless it is a reflection on the starfield. (The starfields for TNG and DS9 were actually produced by filming inside a large half cylinder of black plex that had hundreds of tiny holes drilled into it and lit from behind.)
Wow...cool..how did they make them look like they were moving??

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Old January 10 2010, 06:58 AM   #4
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Re: What is the blue hue???

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what is causing that blue hue???
Blue warp nacelles?
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Old January 10 2010, 08:25 AM   #5
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Re: What is the blue hue???

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how did they make them look like they were moving?
Well, for moving starfields outside TNG windows, they had a rotating drum draped in black fabric, covered in little aluminum squares, upon which a strong light was shone.

I have one little "star from outer space" which was in "A Baggie Full of Star Trek" charity auction item, by Bjo Trimble, who had collected a range of bizarre floor sweepings during a set visit to the filming of "Encounter at Farpoint".
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Old January 10 2010, 08:26 AM   #6
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Degradation of the analog storage medium that was never corrected when it was transfered to a digital medium of storage would be my guess.
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Old January 10 2010, 01:09 PM   #7
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Re: What is the blue hue???

For those who are wondering what the OP is talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tudg6...eature=related

It's not as noticeable on the youtube video as it is on a TV but if you look at the bottom left corner you can see it. Depending on the settings of your monitor the glow may not be visible, it is quite faint compared to the TV broadcasts.

I myself have always wondered about the blue glow. Back in 1987 I thought it was our TV going kaput or some kind of magnetic interference on the picture tube. I spend more than a few hours tweaking color settings, moving stereo and speaker equipment trying to get rid of that damn glow. I have to say I failed in that task
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Old January 10 2010, 05:25 PM   #8
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For those who are wondering what the OP is talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tudg6...eature=related

It's not as noticeable on the youtube video as it is on a TV but if you look at the bottom left corner you can see it. Depending on the settings of your monitor the glow may not be visible, it is quite faint compared to the TV broadcasts.

I myself have always wondered about the blue glow. Back in 1987 I thought it was our TV going kaput or some kind of magnetic interference on the picture tube. I spend more than a few hours tweaking color settings, moving stereo and speaker equipment trying to get rid of that damn glow. I have to say I failed in that task
But you tried..and thats worthy of a klingon opera...

I wish they had spend a little money for 'different' ending credits for the shows that used it (I think TNG-DS9 and Voyager all used that loop at the end of their shows)

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Old January 10 2010, 06:11 PM   #9
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Re: What is the blue hue???

I've noticed that quite often. In fact, it was there in the end credits all throughout TNG's run, the first three seasons of DS9, and Voyaer's first season. It didn't disappear until midway through DS9's fourth season and Voyager's second.

I alway's wondered what it was and why it took so long to correct it. Seriously, why would something like that take nearly eight and a half years to correct?
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Old January 10 2010, 07:38 PM   #10
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Seriously, why would something like that take nearly eight and a half years to correct?
Maybe it wasn't noticeable in production, and it had to do with the broadcast?
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Old January 11 2010, 10:51 PM   #11
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Re: What is the blue hue???

I remember reading somewhere that J.J. Abrams worked as an uncredited intern during the early years on TNG and accidently turned one of the lamps toward the camera during the starfield shoot, resulting in a very slight flaring of the lens...
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Old January 12 2010, 01:59 AM   #12
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Seriously, why would something like that take nearly eight and a half years to correct?
Maybe it wasn't noticeable in production, and it had to do with the broadcast?
But still, you'd think they could have had it corrected within two or three years. Not eight and a half!
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Old January 12 2010, 03:50 AM   #13
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Seriously, why would something like that take nearly eight and a half years to correct?
Maybe it wasn't noticeable in production, and it had to do with the broadcast?
But still, you'd think they could have had it corrected within two or three years. Not eight and a half!
I just finished watching IN THEORY..and it was still slightly there in the opening credits..and very much still there at the end credits...

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Old January 12 2010, 04:09 PM   #14
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Seriously, why would something like that take nearly eight and a half years to correct?
Maybe it wasn't noticeable in production, and it had to do with the broadcast?
But still, you'd think they could have had it corrected within two or three years. Not eight and a half!
Maybe they couldn't find a reason it did that other than 'just because', and didn't want to spend too much money on looking into correcting something so small. I don't know.
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Old January 12 2010, 06:08 PM   #15
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Maybe it wasn't noticeable in production, and it had to do with the broadcast?
But still, you'd think they could have had it corrected within two or three years. Not eight and a half!
Maybe they couldn't find a reason it did that other than 'just because', and didn't want to spend too much money on looking into correcting something so small. I don't know.
It almost looks to me like the edge of a camera lense..did they "film" them off a screen back in those days?

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