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Old January 11 2010, 03:35 PM   #76
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Re: Dumbass Japanese and Greenpeace ramming in Australian waters!!

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If you don't believe anyone's mind can be changed online even with a good argument, I guess you just said this to be, what, rude then? Well, thanks for your worthless contribution!
Thanks for proving my point. I can make a well crafted argument and you'll still side with those morons who flit around breaking international law, yes the ones in the "save the whales" boat are just as guilty but since they happen to support your cause, it's okay for them to do something illegal. You can forgive them for that and take whatever video you want for granted as an unaltered fact, especially if it happens to show your "side" is in the "right." Never mind they have freely admitted to doing the very thing that got them hit in the first place on purpose several times in the past.
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Old January 11 2010, 06:23 PM   #77
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Re: Dumbass Japanese and Greenpeace ramming in Australian waters!!

Actually, you missed the point entirely (well, you didn't miss it, you just chose to ignore it). Instead of cherry picking the last sentence, respond to the rest of it. Did you watch the videos? Is there anything in them that suggested they were edited to conceal something that wasn't a deliberate ramming by the Whalers?
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Old January 11 2010, 09:04 PM   #78
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Re: Dumbass Japanese and Greenpeace ramming in Australian waters!!

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If you don't believe anyone's mind can be changed online even with a good argument, I guess you just said this to be, what, rude then? Well, thanks for your worthless contribution!
Thanks for proving my point. I can make a well crafted argument and you'll still side with those morons who flit around breaking international law, yes the ones in the "save the whales" boat are just as guilty but since they happen to support your cause, it's okay for them to do something illegal. You can forgive them for that and take whatever video you want for granted as an unaltered fact, especially if it happens to show your "side" is in the "right." Never mind they have freely admitted to doing the very thing that got them hit in the first place on purpose several times in the past.
How does it prove your point? You didn't even try to make a well-crafted argument, because you had already concluded that doing so would have been pointless according to your own words. And lo and behold, when you come in acting smug and dismissive, calling people idiots, and choosing not to address any of the points they raised throughout the thread, they rejected what you had to say. In your warped view this justifies not making a decent argument in the first place and proves you right somehow.

I never said it was okay for them to do something illegal. You would have known this had you bothered to read the entirety of any of my posts including the one in response to you where I specifically said "I don't approve of their illegal actions." I guess you were just in a rush to get to that last paragraph and impress us all with how much better you are as an outside observer disgusted with this whole thing and anyone who would dare to not see this is purely black and white terms where both sides are equally wrong. Well, they're not. Both sides have done wrong, yes, but I don't believe they're equally wrong for the reasons I've laid out before. If you disagree, feel free to refute what I said. Otherwise, I will continue to find your contributions to the discussion so far pretty worthless.

What part of the two videos appears to be edited in a way to make the Sea Shepherd's look better? Please, explain to me where the editing takes place and how they made the Japanese whaler appear to rapidly turn into the Sea Shepherd vessel? Frankly, to reverse your own accusation, I don't even think you've watched either of the videos, but just decided to draw a conclusion that it must be altered to fit their narrative because you already had your mind made up that that's what happens in these situations.
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