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Old March 3 2010, 12:32 PM   #91
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What I find funny is that the iPad will still be able to run Kindle files since you can get the Kindle reader for iPod Touch already. So, the iPad will provide more than just iBooks as any reader can make an app. Heck, I have Kindle and eReader on my iPod Touch already.
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Old March 3 2010, 01:29 PM   #92
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FWIW, I got a Sony PRS300 a few days ago and, try as I might, I can't imagine how I ever went a single day without it.
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Old March 3 2010, 04:01 PM   #93
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The e-bookcreators here in Soweden have made epub (i think it's epub, but it's called pdf anyway) with watermarks one of the downloadable formats (I think it's three, drm:ed pdf, drm:ed Mobipocket and epub with watermarks).

Bought one, and tried to convert it with Calibre to pdb (I use a Palm, after all), and it worked like a charm. It even converted the watermark, so it was readable (which of course means that shady people can convert the file to txt and remove the watermark completely. It's just a line of text / page to remove, as I understand it).
PDF is not ePub. not even close. And no novel length PDF can be converted without numerous errors.
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Old March 3 2010, 05:16 PM   #94
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I keep all of my ebooks as HTML along with a suitable embedded stylesheet. It's the most open and transferable format there is.
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Old March 3 2010, 08:58 PM   #95
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FWIW, I got a Sony PRS300 a few days ago and, try as I might, I can't imagine how I ever went a single day without it.
I'm really torn between the 300 and the touch screen, i'mgoing to buy one friday regardless. Can you load html\doc files into it? if so do they maintain format? italics, bold,etc?
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Old March 3 2010, 09:10 PM   #96
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The e-bookcreators here in Soweden have made epub (i think it's epub, but it's called pdf anyway) with watermarks one of the downloadable formats (I think it's three, drm:ed pdf, drm:ed Mobipocket and epub with watermarks).

Bought one, and tried to convert it with Calibre to pdb (I use a Palm, after all), and it worked like a charm. It even converted the watermark, so it was readable (which of course means that shady people can convert the file to txt and remove the watermark completely. It's just a line of text / page to remove, as I understand it).
PDF is not ePub. not even close. And no novel length PDF can be converted without numerous errors.
Ok, I had some of it wrong. New titles are both PDF and epub and older "only" PDF. No problem at all converting the files, though. The only DRM is after all the watermark.

Example of a book with all the formats:

http://www.elib.se/ebook_detail.asp?...&id=9173432768

Computer translated: http://translate.google.com/translat...68&sl=sv&tl=en
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Old March 3 2010, 09:42 PM   #97
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Garm Bel Iblis wrote: View Post
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FWIW, I got a Sony PRS300 a few days ago and, try as I might, I can't imagine how I ever went a single day without it.
I'm really torn between the 300 and the touch screen, i'mgoing to buy one friday regardless. Can you load html\doc files into it? if so do they maintain format? italics, bold,etc?
IMO the touch screen isn't worth the hike in price. I can control page turns just fine with the buttons.
The PRS300 doesn't use doc or html, but i was recommended a free program called Calibre (calibre-ebook.com) which converts pretty much anything to anything, and keeps all the formatting.
Waterstones in England currently have the PRS300 down to £150.
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Old March 4 2010, 11:48 AM   #98
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ok next question, what readers and read html\doc files?
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I'm really torn between the 300 and the touch screen, i'mgoing to buy one friday regardless. Can you load html\doc files into it? if so do they maintain format? italics, bold,etc?
To the best of my knowledge no ereader supports .doc files, because it's a microsoft proprietary format. Calibre can't convert it for the same reason (being free software one can hardly expect them to pay the license fees to legally offer .doc conversion). If you have a .doc you want to read, export it as .rtf and then use Calibre to convert it to the ereader format of your choice is IMO the best option.

Several ereaders will read html: see the mobile read comparison matrix for ereaders for a list:

http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix

I have a Sony PRS 505, which will read html but formats it as it goes, which uses more power. I've prefer to convert it to epub in Calibre before uploading it to my reader.
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Old March 4 2010, 02:42 PM   #99
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Actually, the Hanlin V3 and V5 (repackaged as the Astak EZ Reader Basic/EZ Reader Pocket Pro; and as the BeBook/BeBook Mini) can read both HTML and doc, but I'm not sure how well they can handle either of them. Every format that they can handle (and their's a ton of them) has its strengths and weaknesses, but the three formats that most users seem to prefer (more strengths than weaknesses) are ePub, Mobi, and fb2. If necessary, Calibre is still an option.
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Old March 4 2010, 02:59 PM   #100
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Garm Bel Iblis wrote: View Post
KingDaniel wrote: View Post
FWIW, I got a Sony PRS300 a few days ago and, try as I might, I can't imagine how I ever went a single day without it.
I'm really torn between the 300 and the touch screen, i'mgoing to buy one friday regardless. Can you load html\doc files into it? if so do they maintain format? italics, bold,etc?
If you go with the touch screen then you should only do so for the bigger screen size. From experience I can tell you that the touch screen cuts way down on the contrast and therefore the readability of the unit. To me it just wasn't worth the trade-off. I ended up getting a PRS-500, which unfortunately isn't made anymore. It had the 6" screen and wasn't a touch screen.

If I had to replace my sony reader now I'd probably go with a Kindle. A 5" screen is too small and the only way to get a 6" is to buy a touch screen. Why Sony made it an either or situation is beyond me. My wife has a kindle and it's nice. The screen size and contrast are comparable to my sony. Of course Amazon's proprietary format sucks, but there are conversion programs out there that take care of that.
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Old March 4 2010, 03:14 PM   #101
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5" screen too small? I was messing with demo units of the 5 and 6" sony readers in currys, and the difference was barely noticable. Each to their own, but I haven't had any problems reading off the 5" screen at all.
...Unless you want to use PDF's, which don't reflow and are useless and slow on any reader (you can, of course, simply convert to ePub in Calibre unless your PDF's are full-page scans of ancient books full of pictures)
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Old March 4 2010, 04:18 PM   #102
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5" screen too small? I was messing with demo units of the 5 and 6" sony readers in currys, and the difference was barely noticable. Each to their own, but I haven't had any problems reading off the 5" screen at all.
I don't think I'd have a problem, per se, reading off the the 5" screen, but having tested the 5" in the store, I find the 6" screen superior as far as readability is concerned. I guess I saw a bigger difference than you did. I can tell you that if I had to choose between the smaller screen and the 6" with touchscreen, I would choose the smaller screen because the contrast is so much better. Between the two units contrast makes a far bigger difference in readability than screen size does.
...Unless you want to use PDF's, which don't reflow and are useless and slow on any reader (you can, of course, simply convert to ePub in Calibre unless your PDF's are full-page scans of ancient books full of pictures)
Sony readers are practically worthless when it comes to pdf files, so I either convert them or read them on my computer.
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Old March 4 2010, 05:54 PM   #103
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I keep all of my ebooks as HTML along with a suitable embedded stylesheet. It's the most open and transferable format there is.
ePub is XML with CSS and other bits added in. So that is actually even more portable then HTML/CSS as HTML/CSS allows for errors you won't get in XML/CSS.
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Old March 4 2010, 06:07 PM   #104
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FWIW, I got a Sony PRS300 a few days ago and, try as I might, I can't imagine how I ever went a single day without it.
I'm really torn between the 300 and the touch screen, I'm going to buy one Friday regardless. Can you load HTML\doc files into it? if so do they maintain format? italics, bold,etc?
Get the 600. The larger screen is much better. Plus it's faster.

HTML cannot be loaded. But you can use Calibre to convert the HTML into ePub which will keep the styles such as italic and bold. If you need any help with Calibre, go to Mobileread at http://www.mobileread.com and you can get lots of help with conversions and your Reader.
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Old March 8 2010, 08:54 PM   #105
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I'm really torn between the 300 and the touch screen, i'mgoing to buy one friday regardless.
Well, what did you end up getting?
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