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Old March 29 2010, 08:45 PM   #151
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I recently purchased the ebook S.C.E. Miracle Workers for my nook and I've discovered that only 205 out of the 460+ pages actually downloaded. I read Interphase Book II as well as Cold Fusion. When it's time to get cracking on Invinsible, it skips to the Minipedia.

What gives? How can I fix this?
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Old March 29 2010, 08:52 PM   #152
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How do i strip the drm onthe ebooks that Ih ave purcahsed?
That is not a question that can be answered here.
Legal issues and all that.
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Old March 29 2010, 08:57 PM   #153
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LightningStorm wrote: View Post
Garm Bel Iblis wrote: View Post
How do i strip the drm onthe ebooks that Ih ave purcahsed?
That is not a question that can be answered here.
Legal issues and all that.

Interesting, even on purcahsed property taht arent going to be distributed?
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Old March 29 2010, 08:59 PM   #154
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Garm Bel Iblis wrote: View Post
LightningStorm wrote: View Post
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How do i strip the drm onthe ebooks that Ih ave purcahsed?
That is not a question that can be answered here.
Legal issues and all that.

Interesting, even on purcahsed property taht arent going to be distributed?
Yes, it came up before and apparently simple removal of DRM is considered illegal regardless of ownership. Is it BS? Yep, I think so too... but such is life.

Though for the purposes of the BBS, I think even if it weren't illegal it'd be a slippery slope we wouldn't want to be on so we'd not advocate it anyway.
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Old March 29 2010, 09:00 PM   #155
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That is not a question that can be answered here.
Legal issues and all that.

Interesting, even on purcahsed property taht arent going to be distributed?
Yes, it came up before and apparently simple removal of DRM is considered illegal regardless of ownership. Is it BS? Yep, I think so too... but such is life.

Though for the purposes of the BBS, I think even if it weren't illegal it'd be a slippery slope we wouldn't want to be on so we'd not advocate it anyway.
Wow. Ok.
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Old March 30 2010, 01:18 AM   #156
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LightningStorm wrote: View Post
Garm Bel Iblis wrote: View Post
LightningStorm wrote: View Post

That is not a question that can be answered here.
Legal issues and all that.

Interesting, even on purcahsed property taht arent going to be distributed?
Yes, it came up before and apparently simple removal of DRM is considered illegal regardless of ownership. Is it BS? Yep, I think so too... but such is life.

Though for the purposes of the BBS, I think even if it weren't illegal it'd be a slippery slope we wouldn't want to be on so we'd not advocate it anyway.
It's not illegal nor is it legal. It's a gray area. Until it's decided in a court of law, it's neither legal nor illegal. We do not know if fair use trumps the DMCA. This is something we'll just have to be in the dark about until someone goes to court to challenge it.
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Old March 30 2010, 01:20 AM   #157
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The solution in this case is to contact the seller and tell them there is a problem and get them to see what they can do for you.
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Old March 30 2010, 01:41 AM   #158
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Re: eBook Formats and Readers ?'s

JWolf wrote: View Post
It's not illegal nor is it legal. It's a gray area. Until it's decided in a court of law, it's neither legal nor illegal. We do not know if fair use trumps the DMCA. This is something we'll just have to be in the dark about until someone goes to court to challenge it.
As far as copyright law goes, you may be right. But if you're buying a product with DRM, at some point you may well have clicked through some terms and conditions or license agreement in which you agree not to break the DRM. Copyright is not the only issue. Contract law may be involved as well.
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Old March 30 2010, 07:42 PM   #159
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Steve Roby wrote: View Post
JWolf wrote: View Post
It's not illegal nor is it legal. It's a gray area. Until it's decided in a court of law, it's neither legal nor illegal. We do not know if fair use trumps the DMCA. This is something we'll just have to be in the dark about until someone goes to court to challenge it.
As far as copyright law goes, you may be right. But if you're buying a product with DRM, at some point you may well have clicked through some terms and conditions or license agreement in which you agree not to break the DRM. Copyright is not the only issue. Contract law may be involved as well.
But some of these license agreements may not be legal. They say you are not really buying the eBook when the link on the site says you are buying. So really, fair use and your rights are up in the air until a court decides what's what. There is an exception in the DMCA that says that it is legal to strip the DRM if the DRM stops the read aloud function. So we know there are some cases it is legal to strip the DRM.
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Old March 31 2010, 12:29 AM   #160
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Today is March 30, 2010. What I want to know is where is the ePub for Unspoken Truth. Other then S&S, it's no place. That means paying full price or having to get it in Mobipocket or eReader, strip the DRM and convert to ePub. Is S&S going to be one of those publishers giving in to agency pricing where we pay more and get less?
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Old April 1 2010, 06:50 PM   #161
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JWolf wrote: View Post
Today is March 30, 2010. What I want to know is where is the ePub for Unspoken Truth. Other then S&S, it's no place. That means paying full price or having to get it in Mobipocket or eReader, strip the DRM and convert to ePub. Is S&S going to be one of those publishers giving in to agency pricing where we pay more and get less?
Any luck on finding it elsewhere?
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Old April 1 2010, 06:55 PM   #162
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Any luck on finding it elsewhere?
It seems like it's fallen into the morass of the agency pricing changeover.
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Old April 2 2010, 02:21 AM   #163
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If anyone is looking for Seven Deadly Sins cheaply, the cheapest I've found it is kobobooks for $9.89.

I'm still looking for Unspoken Truth.
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Old April 3 2010, 01:58 PM   #164
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You can get Unspoken Truth from Amazon for $6.99 in AZW. You can also get it from B&N for $6.99 in eReader. You can get it in ePub from S&S for $6.99. All the Star Trek eBooks seem to have vanished from Sony.

I just want someone to give us the answer to what sort of stupid games these publishers are playing with eBooks.
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Old April 3 2010, 02:28 PM   #165
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Sorry, but $6.99 is too much when I could get the print version for $5.60.
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