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View Poll Results: How do you grade Stop-Loss & The Attic: Dollhouse 2x9/2x10??
EXCELLENT 26 74.29%
ABOVE AVERAGE 8 22.86%
AVERAGE 1 2.86%
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Old December 21 2009, 07:34 AM   #46
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Re: Dollhouse: ep 2x9/2x10-Stop Loss&The Attic Grading,Comments SPOIL

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I am just glad the DeWitt character has been redeemed.
I'm torn about that. On the one hand, I'm glad she's good. On the other hand, I think it would have been braver of Joss to push her into evil-land and leave her there.

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I smiled when they set Viktor up at the Hyperion hotel.
Yeah, I think they've mentioned the Hyperion more than once, but I did smile hearing that again.

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I always figured Ivy was some sort of spy. That's probably why she was so pissed about being kept out of the loop.
I kinda hope she's a red herring. (Didn't read that spoiler up there, so if this makes no sense in light of it, just ignore me. ) She just seems too obvious a choice to be a spy/plant. Although, I wouldn't object to her ending up being Clyde's partner.
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Old December 21 2009, 09:55 PM   #47
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Wow this show got really good, I guess that is what happens when you have to fast forward a season (or two) worth of storylines into a few remaining episodes. Too bad they could not have had this pacing and story setup earlier when it mattered, I do feel it is a little too late (although I'm not sure but has it been officially canceled?).

A few episodic comments:
- Great reveal with the loyalty of Dewitt. I was actually surprised at the end. Long time in a while any show has done that, other than well the recent Dexter ending (although we were all expecting something)!
- The Attic concept of "We are the mainframe"! I always wondered what that was all about (doing tests blah blah always seemed lame as an answer I knew there had to be more) and I thought the payoff was gold!

I hope the remaining 3 or so episodes are as good and that they can end the story properly.
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Old December 21 2009, 10:09 PM   #48
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^These eps were all written and filmed before the show was cancelled, I hear. So we're seeing what the season would have looked like regardless.
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Old December 21 2009, 10:28 PM   #49
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Well, before it was formally canceled. Whedon and co. said more than once that they had no real expectation of getting another season, and were shocked at being renewed at the first place.
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Old December 21 2009, 11:03 PM   #50
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These eps were all written and filmed before the show was cancelled, I hear. So we're seeing what the season would have looked like regardless.
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Well, before it was formally canceled. Whedon and co. said more than once that they had no real expectation of getting another season, and were shocked at being renewed at the first place.
I see. So they probably figured anyway that this was there 'last' chance to wrap-up the series and tell their story. I guess they are fortunate (and we are lucky!) as it brought out the best because the last four episodes have been top notch, I thought!

So has the show been 'officially' cancelled?
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Old December 21 2009, 11:23 PM   #51
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The show was "capped" (IE, canceled) during production (filming, actually) of the 11th episode of the season, "Getting Closer". They probably had some idea this was the last, while at the same time setting up for a potential season three/series finale had the news come down much later then it did. Joss Whedon, has as a result, declared he is going to "finish" Dollhouse, which means no comics and the like, but an actual wrap up and closure within the series.

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Old December 22 2009, 01:48 AM   #52
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I was thinking the same thing.
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Old December 22 2009, 03:28 AM   #53
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I had a feeling since the woman who played Dr. Saunders only had three episodes to appear in this season that they would try to some kind of off-screen romance happening between her character and Boyd before she returned. It would make sense and I think it works with hints of an attraction between Boyd and Dr. Saunders already made and the glimpse of their future in Epitaph One.

And I'm happy Joss is going to try to end Dollhouse with as much closure as possible because I'm not a big fan of TV shows followed by movies or comics to keep track of what's going on.
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Old December 22 2009, 06:23 AM   #54
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I agree, and must wonder if the show would have been better off to start showing some of these realizations within season one, with some of the elements in this episode slowly building up to something much bigger at this point in season 2.
Those realizations are actually there from the beginning. You'll notice them too if you ever start to watch the show from the beginning with all the knowledge of things to come.
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Old December 22 2009, 12:29 PM   #55
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holy shit! In that scene when Victor was fighting, well, Victor...

That was Enver's twin brother, wasn't it?!

BRILLIANT!
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Old December 22 2009, 02:32 PM   #56
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He has a twin? I was willing to chalk it up to insanely skillful digital face replacement.
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Old December 22 2009, 03:38 PM   #57
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holy shit! In that scene when Victor was fighting, well, Victor...

That was Enver's twin brother, wasn't it?!

BRILLIANT!
Enver has a twin?!
Wow, I was thinking good use of stunt double and editing.
Cool piece of news.
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Old December 22 2009, 03:52 PM   #58
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Why do people keep spelling "Victor" with a "k", as "Viktor"?

Minor annoyance. Sorry!
Eastern european spelling.
Victor (the character) isn't Eastern European (of course Enver Gjokaj, the actor, is Albanian), and in any case all of the Dolls are named for letters in the NATO phonetic alphabet, so it should properly be Victor anyway.

Nevertheless, this was just a very minor irritant for some reason, pay me no mind.
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Old December 22 2009, 06:04 PM   #59
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With the last three weeks continually upping the ante with dual episodes my eagerness for more Dollhouse is high. Waiting three weeks now is like torture on top of knowing that in six weeks its all over.
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Old December 22 2009, 08:46 PM   #60
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I hate these extended breaks, I can see taking a week or two off for the holidays, but these extended breaks, it's no wonder why Dollhouse failed. People just were not that interested, and when they climbed a little bit? BAM, extended break. Back for another episode or two, then off for ALL of November. Now it's off for tree frickin' weeks? *sigh*.

I'm going to miss this show...
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