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Old April 24 2010, 12:42 AM   #1
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to clone or not to clone.....

it's 100, 200, 250 years from now... The CE (clone exchange) Corporation is having a sale on clones....
Law's being what they are you can not clone a individual that's been born in the last 75-100 years....
cerebral function can be set to any level you like.

remember it's 250 years from now.... would you buy a valerie bertinelli clone or a Hector Penate (think larry king divorce) clone....
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Old April 24 2010, 04:26 AM   #2
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

A clone wouldn't be something you could buy; that would be slavery. A clone isn't something subhuman. It's just an offspring whose genes come entirely from one parent. And that means a clone wouldn't be an exact copy of the original in mind or body, since the clone would grow up in a different generation with different life experiences, environmental influences, diet, education, etc. The fictional conceit of a "clone" as an exact copy right down to the personality is a myth, a misuse of the word. What you're talking about isn't a clone at all, more some kind of Life Model Decoy, to use the Marvel Comics term.
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Old April 24 2010, 04:59 AM   #3
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

Yes it would be slavery to own a clone, However your limiting yourself to current technology. 200 years from now it may be possible to transfer a human brains contents into a perfect 20 year old identical clone of yourself thereby allowing yourself a near infinite life. By routinely backing up the brain storage program in the event you are injured or killed the data could be downloaded into the clone and you are ready to go for another lifetime. You have to get past the how do you age a mindless clone thing but that shouldnt be to hard to figure out. A nice black market would exist for complete clones of the famous to be sold to those that could afford it. I always thought the Clonus Horror was quite a scary movie in its concept.
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Old April 24 2010, 07:07 AM   #4
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

Well, of course, I'd clone myself, removing the Y, then doubling the X--and adding X's from there, to be sure.
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Old April 24 2010, 01:02 PM   #5
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

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Well, of course, I'd clone myself, removing the Y, then doubling the X--and adding X's from there, to be sure.
So basically, you literally want to go f*** yourself?

Personally i wouldn't buy a clone. Because if science fiction has taught us anything its that clones will eventually rise up against the breeders and kill us all.
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Old April 24 2010, 01:45 PM   #6
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

Well, if there is anyone that could be able to kill me, it's myself.
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Old April 24 2010, 02:43 PM   #7
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

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Yes it would be slavery to own a clone, However your limiting yourself to current technology. 200 years from now it may be possible to transfer a human brains contents into a perfect 20 year old identical clone of yourself thereby allowing yourself a near infinite life. By routinely backing up the brain storage program in the event you are injured or killed the data could be downloaded into the clone and you are ready to go for another lifetime.
That's fantasy. The human mind isn't a piece of software that can be copied and pasted like a spreadsheet app. That's a conceit of cyberpunk fiction, but it's grossly ignorant of real neuroscience in many ways. You can't expect real life to work like fiction.

Besides, as I said, even if an identical copy of a person could be created in some way, it wouldn't be a clone in the actual, nonfictional meaning of the word. Again, my point is that reality isn't identical to fiction. The way the word "clone" is used in fiction doesn't represent the actual biological meaning of the word. A clone is an offspring, not a photocopy.
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Old April 24 2010, 04:24 PM   #8
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Yes it would be slavery to own a clone, However your limiting yourself to current technology. 200 years from now it may be possible to transfer a human brains contents into a perfect 20 year old identical clone of yourself thereby allowing yourself a near infinite life. By routinely backing up the brain storage program in the event you are injured or killed the data could be downloaded into the clone and you are ready to go for another lifetime. You have to get past the how do you age a mindless clone thing but that shouldnt be to hard to figure out. A nice black market would exist for complete clones of the famous to be sold to those that could afford it. I always thought the Clonus Horror was quite a scary movie in its concept.
Apparently, much of the human brain works on the quantum level.

You can't copy quantum information without severely altering/corrupting it. If you try to copy your mind, the result will be non-functional, or, at best, a 'bizzaro' you.
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Old April 24 2010, 04:56 PM   #9
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

well... that all depends on where you are doesn't it.... if your in america... You might have to follow laws.... if your in the sudan.... things are a lot more gray.... and this is 200-250 years from now.... who knows what laws or science there will be.... and science already can already diminish the processing activity of the brain without ceasing life functions....

the question is.... do you need to protect your dna from future pirates...
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Old April 24 2010, 07:35 PM   #10
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

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Personally i wouldn't buy a clone. Because if science fiction has taught us anything its that clones will eventually rise up against the breeders and kill us all.
And the military will be ready with their T-800's.
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Old April 24 2010, 08:41 PM   #11
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

Cloning animals as a solution to a possible food crisis is acceptable.

Cloning humans - hell no!
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Old April 24 2010, 10:34 PM   #12
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

At first I thought, "of course - I'll clone Ben Browder. Or maybe Joe Flanigan."

Then it occurred to me that I'm getting a baby Ben Browder or Joe Flanigan clone, who I get to diaper, raise and pay for college. Not so sexy anymore!

So, the obvious thing to do is clone a kid who can make a boatload of money and support you in your old age. Clone Bill Gates or Tiger Woods!
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Old April 24 2010, 10:39 PM   #13
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Re: to clone or not to clone.....

Silent_Bob wrote: View Post
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Well, of course, I'd clone myself, removing the Y, then doubling the X--and adding X's from there, to be sure.
So basically, you literally want to go f*** yourself?
Isaac Asimov told me it was okay.

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Apparently, much of the human brain works on the quantum level.
Still a very arguable proposition at this point.
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