TOS-Remastered: a waste of time

[Haggis and tatties]

I have season 1-2 on BR and i love the new effects, why, well because Star trek has in no way changed with these remastered version, the most important part of Star trek has always been the stories and the charactors and that has not changed in any way with the remastered version, all the stuff that i love about the original series remains intact, all they have done in update a part of Trek for me that was never i that important, they effects were there to help the story along but for me original Trek has always been about the stories and the characters.

And having TOS in HD has been like watching the show for the first time all over again, but i suppose anyhting that can draw me more into TOS is always a bonus.

[Forbin]

Yeah but all the things I love about the original series includes the original effects and that big, beautiful, hand-crafted starship model.

[trevanian]

Doug Otte wrote:

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I agree w/ what you've written about the VFX shots. However (and I seem to be in the minority based upon others' posting) I still don't see many glaring issues w/ the live-action shots.

The other day, I saw the first really obvious flaw. In Mirror, Mirror, when Scott and McCoy climb the ladder to the little upper-level engineering room, I could see the seam where two wall pieces were put together.

Otherwise (and I am looking for them), I don't see any issues.

Doug

Pretty much every planet ground set on stage fails for me, (though most are better than early TNG like HIDE & Q) ... set materials and styling are not really period (60s-designed stuff looked cooler, which is why the chairs are the only real period thing in TOS), they reflect what was used -- wood.

I don't find any of these wholly objectionable, but I find all of them a lot higher up on the 'if you had to tamper with the original, touch me FIRST' than the visual effects, which are usually brief cuts that go right by (and I only find about a third or a quarter of them to be really flawed, some of the ship shots in TOS are really solid), and in their original form, don't have the low dynamic range flaws of the -r CG, which is what registers (to me) as cartoonish.

[man named Gorn]

This thread is a waste of time, not the remaster Fx in the eps....tit for tat, people. Paramount is not worried about the uber anal retentive types that HATE everything

[Haggis and tatties]

Forbin wrote:

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Yeah but all the things I love about the original series includes the original effects and that big, beautiful, hand-crafted starship model.

But that's not changed, the originals versions have been released on Video, DVD and now HD, so its not like the remastered version are replacing the originals, they are still there for anybody who wants them, i have them on the original CIC video release and the DVD release, but i found the HD remastered versions really added to my enjoyment of TOS immensely not only for the few remastered effects in each episode but seeing TOS in HD is just awesome.

[MANT!]

Captain Robert April wrote:

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Note at least one of the links to the side are for clips with color tv's from the late 50's to early 60's. Those are the sets that Star Trek was made for, as well as the large number of black and white sets still in use. After all, not everyone had a brand new RCA Victor or Zenith (although Star Trek sold a lot of 'em); a lot of folks continued to get by with the old Dumont.

exactly..though the "In Living Color" ads reached a fever pitch during the 60s when Color TV became much more affordable..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S60N2W5xzk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlxkzgGdqcM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-82zM...eature=related

[I am not Spock]

I own and have watched all of TOS- R. My verdict? Thumbs up. The new effects are just icing on the cake. The stories remain intact. I liked things such as the Romulan Bird of Prey in 'The Enterprise Incident' and the D-7 fleet in Errand of Mercy.

It just adds a bit of flavour, thats all. And you can always watch the original versions on Blu Ray if you don't like the new effects.

[Oso Blanco]

Nerdius Maximus wrote:

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I agree 100%. And anyone who just can't get into or watch classic Trek because of it's "Cheesy" effects is too superficial to understand what Star Trek is all about in the first place. And anyways, the new effects look like Playstation 2 cutscenes. Very cartoony.

[Nero's Shadow]

I,ve got season 1 and season 2 on blu ray and like the new cgi and added special effects. The story telling has not chaged and Wow the enterprise looks stunning and the planets look so real !!!

If you are still not happy with it check out the doomday machine episode its great .

[Forbin]

Oh, I thought the strafing run along the Doomsday Machine looked kinda stupid.

[Haggis and tatties]

Oh, i think all the remastered effects are fantastic......see what i did there.

[trevanian]

Haggis and tatties wrote:

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Oh, i think all the remastered effects are fantastic......see what i did there.

No, I can't see it, what you did is too dated for modern bbs readers to understand, why not have a computer generate your next post to 'remaster' your text into something sufficiently cartoony to be compelling reading for the next generation.

[Hober Mallow]

Forbin wrote:

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Yeah but all the things I love about the original series includes the original effects and that big, beautiful, hand-crafted starship model.

Okay, so what's stopping you from watching the remastered episodes with the original FX on blu-ray? If it's that you don't have a blu-ray player, well... sorry, I'm not buying you one.

[Haggis and tatties]

^^When you think of it this whole thread is a "waste of time", every version is availble for everybody, people who dont like the remastered versions will or can have the original versions on DVD, the BR HD release has made it so anybody can pick what version of TOS they want to watch.

Its complaining for the sake of complaining, its not like the original version have been replaced, people who don't want to watch the remastered versions are not going to go out on buy them now are they, so i fail to see whats to complain about.

[Forbin]

Hober Mallow wrote:

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Okay, so what's stopping you from watching the remastered episodes with the original FX on blu-ray? If it's that you don't have a blu-ray player, well... sorry, I'm not buying you one.

I have BR player, but I also spent $600 buying the entire series in its first DVD release (having also bought it in VHS, and some even in Beta before that), and I'm really sick of having to rebuy everything I like every time some schmuck develops a new video format.