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Old December 9 2009, 09:33 PM   #31
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

i saw this one over on scifi-meshes, i like where you're going with it...

although when i saw the thread title i immediately had a monty python flashback... haha
"and now for something completely different"
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Old December 9 2009, 10:21 PM   #32
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

I like the original version much better. The new one looks too clunky to me.
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Old December 9 2009, 10:37 PM   #33
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Hi Madman, I'm a bit of a lurker here don't tend to reply to many threads, but this ship you've designed looks f**king fantastic!! Terrific work!
Thanks man. I'm glad you came out of lurker mode.
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Old December 9 2009, 10:38 PM   #34
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I like the original version much better. The new one looks too clunky to me.
the parts on the engines, you mean? that's the main addition. Maybe I'll try out some other ideas before I settle down on this one.
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Old December 9 2009, 10:54 PM   #35
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

Gotta be honest I think you were onto a winner with the first version, the additions to the nacelles seem to be adding stuff for the sake of adding stuff
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Old December 9 2009, 11:15 PM   #36
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

^ What he said.

I also don't care for how the secondary hull is tacked on waaaay back there. It doesn't look like it really belongs there.

Actually, if you deleted the secondary hull altogether and finished off the new back end, you might be left with a pretty nifty design, but we'd be straying away from the Daedalus.
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Old December 9 2009, 11:31 PM   #37
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

nope, the new version doesn't do it for me, either. now it just looks like a pack of bic pens had a drunken orgy with some sort of optometrist's instrument, and nine months later...

if you're going to do the four nacelle thing, do it. show 'em if you've got 'em.
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Old December 10 2009, 12:10 AM   #38
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

I agree with what has been said keep the nacelles seperate.
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Old December 10 2009, 01:44 AM   #39
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

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IMHO for what its worth I would use the original Kelvin secondary hull since the Archon was older then Kelvin.
Its also got a Wasp class kind of look to it.
Since the Abramsverse isn't TOS' prehistory, who cares?
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Old December 10 2009, 02:07 AM   #40
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^ Finally, I'm not alone!
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Old December 10 2009, 05:34 PM   #41
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

Wow, thanks for the strong feedback.

I went back to something closer to what I had to begin with, with a few tweaks. I added some hull detail, and impulse engines.







Am I back on track again?

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Old December 10 2009, 05:47 PM   #42
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

looking nice.

the sheathing may have been overdone, but IMO i think there was something to work with there.
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Old December 10 2009, 07:05 PM   #43
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

Hmm, an idea occurred to me. I remembered this...



and thought my ship here was similar. I always liked that little guy.
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Old December 10 2009, 08:05 PM   #44
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Ok, so over here, and on the Sci-fi meshes board, there have been all kinds of Daedalus class ships showing up recently, and I saw one image (I can't find it again) showing a Daedalus with Kelvinized parts. So, I thought I would build something similiar.

I warned you, this is weird.







I named it the Archon; Apparently it was supposed to have been a Daedalus class, originally. Maybe this is what it looked like.

This is still very preliminary; I haven't even smoothed out the shapes yet.

What do you guys think?
MadMan1701A, the only things I didn't like about your original design, quoted above, are (1: the four nacelles; I prefer two... and (2: the funky groove in the sides of the forward spherical hull; I say leave it smooth, but with hull-plating surface detail.

BTW, I don't know if you're aware of this, but this project reminds me of a couple of TOS-oriented Daedalus threads inspired in 2008 by NCC-1701 / "Winter". Here's a link to the original Apex-class starship thread, and here's a link to Starscape's derivative Apex thread.

I would absolutely love to see some of your design ideas in this thread applied to a prime-Universe thread about the Apex-class vessel or something similar. I could see this Daedalus-derived Archon concept fitting in very well in a pseudo-Kelvinized pre-TOS Apex-class ship.
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Old December 10 2009, 09:03 PM   #45
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Re: And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

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Hmm, an idea occurred to me. I remembered this...



and thought my ship here was similar. I always liked that little guy.
Um, Star Control I think? Earth ship?

On the Archon, while not a fan of spherical hulls, I do admire the modeling.
Also, everytime I look at those 4 nacelles somewhere in the back of my mind I hear

"lock S-foils in attack position!".
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