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Old December 8 2009, 09:17 AM   #1
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WIP - Prospero Class

Does anyone know if anyone has ever done a ship design that is basically a "Miranda" version of the Daedalus class? I searched and searched but came up with zip. I have a fanfic concept that could use something like that.

I'm a noob at 3D, but I started building a model just to see how it would turn out.



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Old December 8 2009, 09:32 AM   #2
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cant say I've ever seen a Daedalus version of the Miranda but yours seems to bee to a good start
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Old December 8 2009, 10:01 AM   #3
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For a 'noob' you've done a better job than many more experienced hobbyists. It's an odd looking thing, that's for sure, and I cant remember ever seeing anything like it before. I think you've got an original there.
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Old December 8 2009, 11:39 AM   #4
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What ^he^ said. An original and good work too.

You could round out the back end kinda like the 1701's fantail. Assuming the Daedalus had any kind of shuttle bay on it.
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Old December 8 2009, 12:24 PM   #5
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Well here's a rough concept of the direction I think would be more aesthetically pleasing. I just subbed Miranda's saucer and nacelles with Daedalus's, so the gap in tech is obvious, but you get the idea.

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Old December 8 2009, 05:11 PM   #6
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very cool
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Old December 8 2009, 05:35 PM   #7
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I like this I'm looking forward to seeing more, I love the 'bulb' ships
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Old December 8 2009, 05:37 PM   #8
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O'KRisMAs 3 wrote: View Post
Well here's a rough concept of the direction I think would be more aesthetically pleasing. I just subbed Miranda's saucer and nacelles with Daedalus's, so the gap in tech is obvious, but you get the idea.

I'd narrow the secondary(?) hull, it looks massive in that setup
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Old December 8 2009, 07:41 PM   #9
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Yeah, the drawing looks like a flying wing more than a Deadalus anything. I'd stick with the original concept and see where it goes. I like the idea of a fantail rear though, it would round out that rear end a bit and make it match the front more.
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Old December 8 2009, 11:02 PM   #10
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Well here's a rough concept of the direction I think would be more aesthetically pleasing. I just subbed Miranda's saucer and nacelles with Daedalus's, so the gap in tech is obvious, but you get the idea.
Heh, I never thought of that. Still... a little too "modern". The Daedalus always struck me as cylindrical, and this is too flat.

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You could round out the back end kinda like the 1701's fantail. Assuming the Daedalus had any kind of shuttle bay on it.
I'm using the pictures in the Starfleet Museum as reference, and it's got a shuttle bay in those. I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by fantail... Which curve are you refering to?



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Old December 8 2009, 11:09 PM   #11
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Well here's a rough concept of the direction I think would be more aesthetically pleasing. I just subbed Miranda's saucer and nacelles with Daedalus's, so the gap in tech is obvious, but you get the idea.
Heh, I never thought of that. Still... a little too "modern". The Daedalus always struck me as cylindrical, and this is too flat.

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You could round out the back end kinda like the 1701's fantail. Assuming the Daedalus had any kind of shuttle bay on it.
I'm using the pictures in the Starfleet Museum as reference, and it's got a shuttle bay in those. I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by fantail... Which curve are you refering to?





I think he meant having a shuttle bay in the Enterprise style. your model in the first post had no shuttle bay at all. . .
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Old December 8 2009, 11:12 PM   #12
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I'd narrow the secondary(?) hull, it looks massive in that setup
You're right. I also played around with increasing primary hull & nacelle size. Pulling the primary hull back into the second a little also seems to help. I haven't made a presentable version of those tests, though.
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Old December 8 2009, 11:51 PM   #13
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Heh, I never thought of that. Still... a little too "modern". The Daedalus always struck me as cylindrical, and this is too flat.
Funny you should mention that, I pictured your miranda/daedalus cross idea as the design that first suggests saucers instead of balls. Here's an example, made this one from scratch, so it's not as detailed, but more along the lines of how I see it working out.


With time, the ball would move back into the middle of the saucer, with the parts protruding above becoming the bridge module, and the parts bellow becoming the phaser bedding/sensor array.
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Old December 9 2009, 12:08 AM   #14
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Re: WIP - Prospero Class

One could make a name for himself just by building all these Daedalus variants.

For now I'm going to stick with the original idea. These others can come later, and probably would be less of a pain to build because a lot of the parts could be reused.

I do plan on adding a hangar deck. Every picture I've ever seen has basically the same style, including the pictures of the actual models on Ex Astris Scientia. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ar...s-problems.htm
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Old December 9 2009, 12:50 AM   #15
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Heh, I never thought of that. Still... a little too "modern". The Daedalus always struck me as cylindrical, and this is too flat.
Funny you should mention that, I pictured your miranda/daedalus cross idea as the design that first suggests saucers instead of balls. Here's an example, made this one from scratch, so it's not as detailed, but more along the lines of how I see it working out.


With time, the ball would move back into the middle of the saucer, with the parts protruding above becoming the bridge module, and the parts bellow becoming the phaser bedding/sensor array.

I still think that would be too big. The ball should be the biggest part of it, or else it looses it's Daedalusness.
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