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Old December 6 2009, 04:03 AM   #31
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Re: Warner Home Video must die!

The only Blu-Rays I will refuse to buy are the upcoming LOTR releases, which will be the theatrical cuts only. Apparently Peter Jackson's holding all the extended cuts until The Hobbit makes it to BR. So until then I'll stick with the standard versions. There's just too much new material on the LOTR extended cuts to give that all up for Blu-Ray (unlike the Trek films, which don't have a whole lot in the extended cuts).
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Old December 6 2009, 05:00 AM   #32
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I'm hard of hearing, so I always find it annoying when there's no English Subtitles/Captions on the DVD, but there's several different foreign languages on them.
QFT. That is ridiculous.
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Old December 6 2009, 05:09 AM   #33
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I'm hard of hearing, so I always find it annoying when there's no English Subtitles/Captions on the DVD, but there's several different foreign languages on them.
QFT. That is ridiculous.

I'm sorry? What does QFT mean, I don't think I've ever encountered that before,
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Old December 6 2009, 05:10 AM   #34
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quite frickin' true
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Old December 6 2009, 05:14 AM   #35
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quite frickin' true
Actually, it usually means "quoted for truth." Though, your version does pop up occasionally.
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Old December 6 2009, 05:26 AM   #36
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Ah, right. Well, thanks, now I feel like I should have actually known that...URG. In any case, I love DVDs and the like as much as the next person, but damn it I get annoyed at new versions and releases. For instance, theres some season sets I see, I don't know how wide spread it is, where the cases look as if it's a single discs, but theres several of them inside. I want to get those, because they take up less room, and some I already have but in bigger cases ><
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Old December 6 2009, 06:02 PM   #37
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Warner Home Video is really starting to piss me off. First, they start this trend of releasing 1-disc & 2-disc versions of movies on the same day, which means that the 2-disc versions almost never show up in the used stores anymore. Next, they start chintzing out on the bonus features, even on the 2-disc versions. The 2-disc version of "I Am Legend" doesn't have any bonus documentaries, only a code to see them on a website. And where are all the commentary tracks? Granted, I've heard that Chris Nolan doesn't like to explain his movies, so that might explain "Batman Begins" & "The Dark Knight." However, why didn't Bryan Singer do one for "Superman Returns"? He did commentaries for both "X-Men" movies.

But now, the latest insult-- the extended director's cut of "Terminator Salvation" is only available on Blu-Ray!

Tsk tsk. What kind of a world do we live in?
The extended director's cut DVD of Terminator Salvation is a Target Stores exclusive. It is $22.00 and supplies are limited.

Odd, I thought the director's cut was a little more wider then that, that's weak, Bad enough to do it only on BluRay, but to only make it a target exclusive? With limited supplies? Bah.
Actually here's something to irritate you even more: the total time of the film that has been cut is confirmed as being over 45 minutes. Included in the filmed cuts were:

- The entire Hybrid subplot (Skynet is really a collection of human/machine hybrids similar to Marcus).

- John Connor confronts the Resistance about the T-800s and Ashdown taunting him about Kyle Reese. (part of his is restored on the Director's Cut and has the scenes of Ashdown holding the gun to Connor's head telling him he could pull the trigger and change history and there was nothing that could be done about it).

- An expanded Connor Vs. The Terminator (cut due to CGI concerns).

- Marcus' death (done so that they could bring Sam Worthington back in a future film).

- Kyle getting the Sarah Connor Photo.
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Old December 6 2009, 06:47 PM   #38
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Old December 6 2009, 11:50 PM   #39
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Actually here's something to irritate you even more: the total time of the film that has been cut is confirmed as being over 45 minutes. Included in the filmed cuts were:

- The entire Hybrid subplot (Skynet is really a collection of human/machine hybrids similar to Marcus).
I thought I remembered some photo with Helena Bonham Carter as a hybrid.
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Old December 6 2009, 11:53 PM   #40
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That would explain why she had such an incidental role in the theatrical version.
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Old December 7 2009, 03:45 AM   #41
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The only Blu-Rays I will refuse to buy are the upcoming LOTR releases, which will be the theatrical cuts only. Apparently Peter Jackson's holding all the extended cuts until The Hobbit makes it to BR. So until then I'll stick with the standard versions. There's just too much new material on the LOTR extended cuts to give that all up for Blu-Ray (unlike the Trek films, which don't have a whole lot in the extended cuts).
I saw two Trek Movie Blu Ray bundling the othe day. One was the the first 3 TOS movies and then the second was all six. I didn't notice on the first but the second it was all Theatrical Release.

Given they have the directors cut versions of most of the TOS trek films why go back to the theatrical release (especially in the case of TMP where the new cut has made it a much more watchable film).
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Old December 7 2009, 03:57 AM   #42
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^ Paramount loves to double and triple dip, especially when it comes to Trek. Remember when all ten Star Trek movies were packaged in the same box set? TMP was a special edition (because it was the first to get an SE and there was no regular edition) and the other nine were regular edition. And then as each movie got an SE double dip, they repackaged the entire thing! So there were 10 different box sets of the same 10 movies!

How else do you explain why there's a "trilogy" for just II, III and IV? Are there any Trek fans who only watch those three movies?

I thought this was going to be a thread about Warner's straight-to-DVD team and The Lost Boys 3 and 4.
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Old December 7 2009, 03:59 AM   #43
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Given they have the directors cut versions of most of the TOS trek films why go back to the theatrical release (especially in the case of TMP where the new cut has made it a much more watchable film).
I don't know why the director's cuts of ST II and VI weren't released on Blu-Ray, since the added material (what little of it existed) was strictly live-action and involved no effects that I could make out.

TMP, however, had new effects that were rendered at Standard Definition only - for reasons unknown. To release the TMP director's cut on Blu-Ray would require that those new effects be rerendered (but, apparently, NOT re-created from scratch - I think there is a difference) in High Definition.
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Old December 7 2009, 04:05 AM   #44
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How else do you explain why there's a "trilogy" for just II, III and IV? Are there any Trek fans who only watch those three movies?
Actually, as far as sets that only package a few of the movies go, that's the only one I'd stand up and make an argument for. Still, when it comes down to it, I'm sure most fans who refer to the "Genesis Trilogy" probably have every Trek film on DVD...even Star Trek Nemesis.

The reason the new effects for TMP were not rendered in HD was that it would have cost more money. And Paramount was not forward-thinking enough at the time to do it.
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Old December 7 2009, 04:12 AM   #45
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How else do you explain why there's a "trilogy" for just II, III and IV? Are there any Trek fans who only watch those three movies?
Actually, as far as sets that only package a few of the movies go, that's the only one I'd stand up and make an argument for. Still, when it comes down to it, I'm sure most fans who refer to the "Genesis Trilogy" probably have every Trek film on DVD...even Star Trek Nemesis.

The reason the new effects for TMP were not rendered in HD was that it would have cost more money. And Paramount was not forward-thinking enough at the time to do it.
the TMP director's cut came out what 3 years go? Computer processing power had taken a pretty big jump in that time, so if the computer models exist, how expensive would it be to re-render them for hi-def? I know that yes you'd have to re-edit the films - but again all the hard work has been done - just insert the hi-def renders in place of the standard ones.

Btw the TOS box set remasters - where the new graphics rendered to standard or hi-def?
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