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Old November 24 2009, 12:10 AM   #1
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Ellison: I?d Work For J.J.

Writer Harlan Ellison thinks highly of J.J. Abrams and wouldn’t hesitate to get involved with the Star Trek XI sequel if he were contacted.Paramount lawsuit or not, Ellison would answer the phone if Abrams called. “I would jump at the chance to work with the inordinately-talented J.J. Abrams on a new Star Trek film,” Abrams [...]

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Old November 24 2009, 03:58 AM   #2
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Old November 24 2009, 04:27 AM   #3
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Gotta love Ellison. "I'll work for anyone, as long as the price is right!"
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Old November 24 2009, 04:59 AM   #4
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Gotta love Ellison. "I'll work for anyone, as long as the price is right!"
Um, no. Not even close. If you're going to make a snotty remark denigrating Ellison, at least criticize him for something he's actually guilty of. Being a mercenary hack? Not guilty. He's walked away from money more than once.

I mean, I was going to make my own snide remark, but it would have reflected Ellison's real world failings. Like the fact that The Last Dangerous Visions and Blood's a Rover are around 30 years late, and Ellison's Babylon 5 episode, the one that would have been a sequel to his Outer Limits episode "Demon With a Glass Hand," never materialized. He's not good at hitting deadlines. That's a matter of fact. You could work with that and make a good snarky comment, like, if he was hired to work on the second Trek movie, we wouldn't see it in our lifetimes, just as some of the writers who contributed stories to The Last Dangerous Visions died before seeing their stories in print.

Yours is just a generic insult that doesn't fit the target. You might as well say his mother dresses him funny.
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Old November 24 2009, 05:13 AM   #5
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Wow, my first off-hand comment about Ellison gets that kind of reaction? I should have done it years ago!
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This is not likely to happen, but I would love it if it did.
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Old November 24 2009, 07:04 AM   #7
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Wasn't Ellison ready to bite off JJA's head when a false internet rumor stated that the Guardian of Forever might appear in Star Trek XI?
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Old November 24 2009, 02:26 PM   #8
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Wasn't Ellison ready to bite off JJA's head when a false internet rumor stated that the Guardian of Forever might appear in Star Trek XI?
Not really. He was irked at the idea of his stories being used without his permission and compensation and said so.

"Would someone go to that site," Ellison wrote on his official message board, referring to the IESB, which printed the original rumors, "and suggest to those people there, that 'City' and all its elements except specific Star Trek characters, belong to Harlan Ellison -- author of that much-lauded episode -- by terms of the Separation of Rights clause of the Writers Guild's Minimum Basic Agreement (MBA), and if Mr. Abrams -- with whom I'm currently on strike -- or anyone else, at Paramount or elsewhere, thinks they're going to use my creations -- whether the City, the Guardians, Sister Edith Keeler, or any other elements created by Harlan Ellison... they had damned well better lose the unilateral arrogance, get in touch with me, or my agent, Marty Shapiro, and be prepared to pay for the privilege of mining the lode I own." Trektoday

But then he addresses those false rumors in this video (1:35).



I've never seen him attack J.J.
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This is not likely to happen, but I would love it if it did.
Absolutely Right(TM).

People who know nothing important about Ellison run their mouths about him all the time. It never seems to bother him at all, but it is a nuisance.
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Wow, my first off-hand comment about Ellison gets that kind of reaction? I should have done it years ago!
Not angry about your post, more baffled by what your point was.
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Old November 24 2009, 05:46 PM   #11
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News Item: Man Wants Job

Seriously though, having Harlan Ellison onboard for the next Trek movie in any capacity (writer, story consultant) is something I'd find pretty neat.
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I may have had issues with Ellison's attitude over the years (once I understood the complete story I realized I was wrong to think that way about his lawsuit), but wow, get him to write for J.J., that would be awesome!


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Kelso wrote: View Post
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Wasn't Ellison ready to bite off JJA's head when a false internet rumor stated that the Guardian of Forever might appear in Star Trek XI?
Not really. He was irked at the idea of his stories being used without his permission and compensation and said so.

"Would someone go to that site," Ellison wrote on his official message board, referring to the IESB, which printed the original rumors, "and suggest to those people there, that 'City' and all its elements except specific Star Trek characters, belong to Harlan Ellison -- author of that much-lauded episode -- by terms of the Separation of Rights clause of the Writers Guild's Minimum Basic Agreement (MBA), and if Mr. Abrams -- with whom I'm currently on strike -- or anyone else, at Paramount or elsewhere, thinks they're going to use my creations -- whether the City, the Guardians, Sister Edith Keeler, or any other elements created by Harlan Ellison... they had damned well better lose the unilateral arrogance, get in touch with me, or my agent, Marty Shapiro, and be prepared to pay for the privilege of mining the lode I own." Trektoday

But then he addresses those false rumors in this video (1:35).



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Old November 24 2009, 07:28 PM   #14
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Never cared much for City on the Edge of Forever, and the only story of his that I have ever liked is Jeffty is Five.

And the movie would probably have to say "Harlan Ellison present Star Trek"
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Dennis wrote: View Post
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This is not likely to happen, but I would love it if it did.
Absolutely Right(TM).

People who know nothing important about Ellison run their mouths about him all the time. It never seems to bother him at all, but it is a nuisance.
Sometimes I think he enjoys it.

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But then he addresses those false rumors in this video (1:35).
This man could be a TNZ regular.
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