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Old November 25 2009, 12:49 AM   #16
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Re: NX-01 season 5 refit in 2011 SOTL!

^ Love that image. Enterprise as airfix artwork. It's got the cloud background and the look of P-38.

That's the direction they were heading with Columbia. A lighter sheen to the hull, which is fair enough. My issues are with the NX-01 suddenly looking clean cut... sleek... visually uncomplicated... like the Constitution class, which is supposed to be a century more advanced. That's my fear when I hear the word porcelin being bandied about...

Still facinated with the concept of these ships evolving though. That would make them truly experimental and fluid in design, rather than a fixed specific class... although Enterprise is a fitting enough title.
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Old November 25 2009, 01:26 AM   #17
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I can't believe people are still bringing this up...

YES, the NX-01 really does look like an upside-down Akira, and NO, no one really gives a fu***...
You're all saying "I don't care, shut up!" but I'm not complaining. Just pointing out that it's pretty anachronistic already if that's what a concern is. That's all.
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Old November 25 2009, 06:06 AM   #18
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That concept drawing is absolute hottness. Starship porn. Everything the NX-01 should have been from the get-go. I LOVE the original design (I'm a HUGE Akira fan) but this... this is just... yes. Win. I can't wait for the new calendar.
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Old November 25 2009, 06:17 AM   #19
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http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/...-2011-is-a-go/

Pierre Drolet and I will team on a page refitting the NX-01 to a fifth season projection… picture a secondary hull and a TOS porcelin finish.

I totally can't wait to see this!
Yeah, but like, when?

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Old November 25 2009, 08:09 AM   #20
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ChristopherPike wrote: View Post
^ Love that image. Enterprise as airfix artwork. It's got the cloud background and the look of P-38.

That's the direction they were heading with Columbia. A lighter sheen to the hull, which is fair enough. My issues are with the NX-01 suddenly looking clean cut... sleek... visually uncomplicated... like the Constitution class, which is supposed to be a century more advanced. That's my fear when I hear the word porcelin being bandied about...

Still facinated with the concept of these ships evolving though. That would make them truly experimental and fluid in design, rather than a fixed specific class... although Enterprise is a fitting enough title.
The middle of that large hall, in your avatar, reminds me of a ship bridge, for some reason.
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Old November 25 2009, 08:12 AM   #21
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With all respect to John Eaves, I don't like his take on NX-01 with a secondary hull. It doesn't make sense to me that the way the nacelles are connected would be utterly changed - almost might as well build a new ship. I envision a secondary hull refit as being the existing design with just enough changes to support ventral connectors to a separate hull. The secondary hull should look at least a little "after market". I'm hoping Doug Drexler will agree with me in his design. I'm already leary, though, with the way he's implying he will change the hull coating for the whole ship.
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Old November 25 2009, 08:44 AM   #22
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Umm, isn't that Eaves drawing simply an alternate original take on NX-01, one that was not adopted for the TV show? (And rightly so, because it's so unimaginative.)

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Old November 25 2009, 11:36 AM   #23
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I would have always liked the NX-01 to bring a bit more of modern shuttle design into the mix, kinnda like the model Archer pays with in the pilot and the "future ship" we see in the opening credits just before we see the nx-01 herself. That would have made the ship a sort of bridge between now and the 1701.
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Old November 25 2009, 12:04 PM   #24
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Umm, isn't that Eaves drawing simply an alternate original take on NX-01, one that was not adopted for the TV show?
That's my impression as well. I seem to recall it being reproduced on some toy packaging a long time back, well before this "fifth season redesign" idea was ever around.

When Doug talks about adding a secondary hull, I imagine he's thinking more along the lines of slinging that central pod down below the midline and beefing it up somehow, along the lines of this CG doodle I did a few years ago when I was playing around with a similar idea.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2526/...90440d55_o.jpg
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Old November 25 2009, 12:21 PM   #25
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Very Vektor-like nacelles
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Old November 25 2009, 12:25 PM   #26
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You don't say.
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Old November 25 2009, 02:10 PM   #27
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If you mean that the NX-01 is unique for not having a secondary hull, then not really. We had the Miranda, Nebula, Defiant, and Akira long before the NX-01.
The Nebula and Akira class ships do have secondary hulls, look underneath... (another reason the NX is NOT the Akira upside down). The Miranda class has a redistributed secondary hull attatched to the back of the saucer, the Defiant (of ds9) is a wholly different design, no saucer, and no extended pylon fitted nacelles.
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Old November 25 2009, 02:29 PM   #28
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The middle of that large hall, in your avatar, reminds me of a ship bridge, for some reason.
One of the most striking comments ever made about the Original Series was how viewers back in the '60s, saw the crew on that bridge and its representation of a united humankind. I think it was George Takei who once said that.

What better structure for a ceremony in which different kinds of aliens come together and commit to founding the Federation?

But yeah, it does look like a ramp leading to a reused bridge module modified for the occasion. Maybe there's more that story or just pure coincidence.

The avatar comes from Zero Hour but that location reappears in These are the Voyages... one of few things I liked about the finale. Of course, Archer's big moment was abruptly cut off by somebody saying "End Program"...

It probably wouldn't have been as good as that speech from Terra Prime anyway, I guess.
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Old November 25 2009, 02:43 PM   #29
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Curious.... why hasn't anybody suggested a design similar to this:



They could certainly get away with something like this with a few modifications..... and I always kinda like this ship design cuz it was so odd compared to most other starships, I just didn't like how it was a mere science vessel and kinda wimpy.

Just make the new Enterprise like this design, but with the warp nacelles further behind then shown above.
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Old November 26 2009, 01:22 AM   #30
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Curious.... why hasn't anybody suggested a design similar to this:



They could certainly get away with something like this with a few modifications..... and I always kinda like this ship design cuz it was so odd compared to most other starships, I just didn't like how it was a mere science vessel and kinda wimpy.

Just make the new Enterprise like this design, but with the warp nacelles further behind then shown above.
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