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Old December 13 2009, 04:38 PM   #1
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Best of Both Worlds

Just watched both.... again.

Question: Why did they not beam bombs aboard the Borg ship?

The Borg adjusted to the phasers and photons quickly, but, the crew was able to beam aboard almost at will for the first few encounters.


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Old December 13 2009, 10:00 PM   #2
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They wanted to save the Captain. It was clear that disconnecting him from the hive collective mind was risky.
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Old December 13 2009, 11:35 PM   #3
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Just watched both.... again.

Question: Why did they not beam bombs aboard the Borg ship?

The Borg adjusted to the phasers and photons quickly, but, the crew was able to beam aboard almost at will for the first few encounters.


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If the borg could adapt to their phasers and torpedoes, I doubt they had any other weaponry capable of damaging the Borg on the ship to use.
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Old December 14 2009, 12:08 AM   #4
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You'll remember that Data and Worf had to use a shuttle to penetrate the Cube's electromagnetic shield before they could beam aboard.
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Old December 14 2009, 05:15 AM   #5
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Exactly, with VOY they were fighting a small probe ship so it's easy to believe they could take down the shields and beam a torpedo onboard to blow it up. Against a huge Cube like that, which had already adapted to their torpedoes and phasers, no bomb they planted in there when they beamed aboard would have damaged anything.
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Old December 14 2009, 08:28 AM   #6
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They said in Dark Frontier that they beamed the torpedo aboard while the probe's shields were regenerating.
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Old December 14 2009, 02:40 PM   #7
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That's what I meant, since it was a probe its' shields were weaker and easy to take down before they could regenerate. Also it hadn't been shot with a torpedo yet so it hadn't had time to adapt.

The huge Cube from BOBW, on the other hand had much more powerful shields and had already adapted to the phasers and torpedoes.
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Old December 14 2009, 05:18 PM   #8
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'Ello

I meant prior to Picard being taken. They beamed aboard before he was nabbed and looked around and try to figure out a way to stop them.... They even matched the warp velocity to do it, right?

So, why not beam massive bombs onboard instead of using phasers to wreck a couple of relays?

I know the writers cannot thing of everything, I was just struck by how simple that tactic would have been, since they were able to beam over easily, early on, and the Borg mostly ignored them when they were there.

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Old December 14 2009, 09:14 PM   #9
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Because at the time, they thought that rescuing Picard was a plausible option. Doesn't make any sense to try to blow up the ship containing the hostage.
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Old December 14 2009, 10:06 PM   #10
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But... before he was taken hostage....
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Old December 14 2009, 11:12 PM   #11
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'Ello

I meant prior to Picard being taken. They beamed aboard before he was nabbed and looked around and try to figure out a way to stop them.... They even matched the warp velocity to do it, right?

So, why not beam massive bombs onboard instead of using phasers to wreck a couple of relays?

I know the writers cannot thing of everything, I was just struck by how simple that tactic would have been, since they were able to beam over easily, early on, and the Borg mostly ignored them when they were there.

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Would be a short story then, yes?
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Old December 14 2009, 11:33 PM   #12
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Interesting idea, but they would have had to make damn sure that they achieved a 100% kill of the Cube or they would have been SOL. Prior to Picard being taken, the Borg didn't see individual officers as a threat. The crew seemed to be able to beem aboard almost at will. The Borg didn't bother to deffend against transporters until after Picard's knowledge was added to their own. If they had used transporter for and attack prior to Picard being taken, and enough of the Cube survived to regenerate, the Borg would have made certain to that transporters would never again be a factor.
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Old December 15 2009, 12:38 AM   #13
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How many bombs would it have taken? The Borg ship is no miniture thing, you would have to send more bombs than the Enterprise had(if any, though you could replicate) and it would have to be in the right places like the central control. Which brings up the problem does anyone in the Federation have a plan of the Borg ship?

On the up side, seeing as it is such a basic and fairly primative idea it may have just worked (just once).
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Old December 15 2009, 04:10 AM   #14
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But... before he was taken hostage....
They only went aboard the Borg ship after he was taken hostage. Before then they were too busy running from the Cube. And in that opening pursuit the Borg adapted to their weapons except that special phaser weapon they were making.
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Old December 15 2009, 08:24 AM   #15
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How many bombs does it take to destroy a Borg cube? ~rimshot~
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