Do you think T'Pol... - Page 4

Shazam! · November 12 2009, 11:28 PM

Mach5 wrote:

teacake wrote:

(With Trip long dead..)

I object!

The novels show Trip being alive in 2238. And I don't give a flying f#ck about it not being canon.

LOL I just read about Trip being alive on Memory Beta...

Secret agent mission faked death? LOLOLOLOLOL

They should've just said that whoever wrote the holodeck program on the Enterprise D messed it up.

Red Ranger · November 12 2009, 11:35 PM

Does that "10,000 Vulcans left" number include all Vulcans, or just those on the homeworld? Also, was it ever established if Vulcan had colonies? I only recall the colony at the monastery of P'jem, but surely, for a species that had been starfaring for such a while, there must be a number of Vulcan colonies. And if you want to see a young T'Pol, just have Jolene Blalock play T'Pol's half-human daughter. Surely, she might have met another human she could have had a relationship with -- Archer, perhaps? -- RR

Mach5 · November 12 2009, 11:37 PM

Shazam! wrote:

Secret agent mission faked death? LOLOLOLOLOL

Actually, the book makes it sufficiently plausible. Remember O'Brien going undercover in "Honor Among Thieves?"

Red Ranger wrote:

Does that "10,000 Vulcans left" number include all Vulcans, or just those on the homeworld?

Just those on the homeworld. Orci confirmed this.

Ward Fowler · November 12 2009, 11:45 PM

I'm afraid that it's likely T'Pol was blown up. All that's left of her are a couple of silicone bags floating around in space.

Jeri · November 13 2009, 12:00 AM

urbandk wrote:

No doubt she is young and very attractive, but my slight joke was that to bring T'Pol back without aging makeup could be interpreted as a desire to bring a very sexy Trek cast member to the movie without diminishing her sex appeal. I think it might just be simpler, from a story standpoint, to have Jolene Blalock with aging makeup than to have a time-travel explanation for her young appearance. YMMV.

Yeah...don't want to see her if she can't look like herself. Even the old TOS cast looked like themselves; they were just older naturally.

Red Ranger wrote:

...And if you want to see a young T'Pol, just have Jolene Blalock play T'Pol's half-human daughter. Surely, she might have met another human she could have had a relationship with -- Archer, perhaps? -- RR

I like it; Archer, too.

teacake · November 13 2009, 12:37 AM

Jeri wrote:

urbandk wrote:

No doubt she is young and very attractive, but my slight joke was that to bring T'Pol back without aging makeup could be interpreted as a desire to bring a very sexy Trek cast member to the movie without diminishing her sex appeal. I think it might just be simpler, from a story standpoint, to have Jolene Blalock with aging makeup than to have a time-travel explanation for her young appearance. YMMV.

Yeah...don't want to see her if she can't look like herself. Even the old TOS cast looked like themselves; they were just older naturally.

I think she looks great in E2, wizened and a touch Yoda-like. A strong older character. I would love to see her in this age/role again.

Jeri · November 13 2009, 12:42 AM

She did a great job; but it's not fair. She should look like herself.

Red Ranger · November 13 2009, 12:51 AM

Ward Fowler wrote:

I'm afraid that it's likely T'Pol was blown up. All that's left of her are a couple of silicone bags floating around in space.

You're a bad man, Ward Fowler, a bad man, a bad man!

-- RR

Ward Fowler · November 13 2009, 02:01 AM

Red Ranger wrote:

Ward Fowler wrote:

I'm afraid that it's likely T'Pol was blown up. All that's left of her are a couple of silicone bags floating around in space.

You're a bad man, Ward Fowler, a bad man, a bad man!

-- RR

Well, to be fair, I'm sure they are couple of really nice looking bags.

DevilEyes · November 13 2009, 05:06 AM

Red Ranger wrote:

Does that "10,000 Vulcans left" number include all Vulcans, or just those on the homeworld? Also, was it ever established if Vulcan had colonies? I only recall the colony at the monastery of P'jem, but surely, for a species that had been starfaring for such a while, there must be a number of Vulcan colonies. And if you want to see a young T'Pol, just have Jolene Blalock play T'Pol's half-human daughter. Surely, she might have met another human she could have had a relationship with -- Archer, perhaps? -- RR

Dear god, please no more daughters who look like exact clones of their mothers!

There's also so much Hollywood Genetics I can take!

Puritan · November 13 2009, 05:15 AM

If T'Pol were to return, I think it'd work better if she weren't played by Jolene Blalock (just as Kirk is not Shatner, Spock is not Nimoy, etc.) but an elderly actress playing an elderly woman to fit the elderly 170-year-old Vulcan she'd be right now. Basically the reverse of T'Pau in the Kir'Shara trilogy, where she's a new character to the general audience, who, if she came back, would have a new storyline self-sufficient within Trek XII... but her presence and name would be a tip of the hat to the longstanding fans.

teacake · November 13 2009, 06:08 AM

Puritan wrote:

If T'Pol were to return, I think it'd work better if she weren't played by Jolene Blalock (just as Kirk is not Shatner, Spock is not Nimoy, etc.) but an elderly actress playing an elderly woman to fit the elderly 170-year-old Vulcan she'd be right now. Basically the reverse of T'Pau in the Kir'Shara trilogy, where she's a new character to the general audience, who, if she came back, would have a new storyline self-sufficient within Trek XII... but her presence and name would be a tip of the hat to the longstanding fans.

I could accept that but only because being elderly always looks much better than being made up to be elderly.

DevilEyes · November 13 2009, 06:10 AM

teacake wrote:

Puritan wrote:

If T'Pol were to return, I think it'd work better if she weren't played by Jolene Blalock (just as Kirk is not Shatner, Spock is not Nimoy, etc.) but an elderly actress playing an elderly woman to fit the elderly 170-year-old Vulcan she'd be right now. Basically the reverse of T'Pau in the Kir'Shara trilogy, where she's a new character to the general audience, who, if she came back, would have a new storyline self-sufficient within Trek XII... but her presence and name would be a tip of the hat to the longstanding fans.

I could accept that but only because being elderly always looks much better than being made up to be elderly.

So true, due to the horrible, totally unconvincing aging makeup we usually get to see. I can't think of a single movie or show where it actually looked reasonably convincing.

teacake · November 13 2009, 06:32 AM

DevilEyes wrote:

teacake wrote:

Puritan wrote:

If T'Pol were to return, I think it'd work better if she weren't played by Jolene Blalock (just as Kirk is not Shatner, Spock is not Nimoy, etc.) but an elderly actress playing an elderly woman to fit the elderly 170-year-old Vulcan she'd be right now. Basically the reverse of T'Pau in the Kir'Shara trilogy, where she's a new character to the general audience, who, if she came back, would have a new storyline self-sufficient within Trek XII... but her presence and name would be a tip of the hat to the longstanding fans.

I could accept that but only because being elderly always looks much better than being made up to be elderly.

So true, due to the horrible, totally unconvincing aging makeup we usually get to see. I can't think of a single movie or show where it actually looked reasonably convincing.

If you saw someone out in public like that you'd freak!

Mach5 · November 13 2009, 10:47 AM

DevilEyes wrote:

So true, due to the horrible, totally unconvincing aging makeup we usually get to see. I can't think of a single movie or show where it actually looked reasonably convincing.

November 12 2009, 11:35 PM	#47
Red Ranger Admiral Location: New York City, the greatest city in the world!	Re: Do you think T'Pol... Does that "10,000 Vulcans left" number include all Vulcans, or just those on the homeworld? Also, was it ever established if Vulcan had colonies? I only recall the colony at the monastery of P'jem, but surely, for a species that had been starfaring for such a while, there must be a number of Vulcan colonies. And if you want to see a young T'Pol, just have Jolene Blalock play T'Pol's half-human daughter. Surely, she might have met another human she could have had a relationship with -- Archer, perhaps? -- RR __________________ "I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!" "I would make this war as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring till the South begs for mercy." -- William Tecumseh Sherman

November 12 2009, 11:45 PM	#49
Ward Fowler Commodore Location: Lucerne's Parlor of Mystery	Re: Do you think T'Pol... I'm afraid that it's likely T'Pol was blown up. All that's left of her are a couple of silicone bags floating around in space. __________________ "Playing is for pleasure." -Master Shake

November 13 2009, 12:42 AM	#52
Jeri Vice Admiral Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA	Re: Do you think T'Pol... She did a great job; but it's not fair. She should look like herself. __________________ I was Jeri before she was. Isis made animated by Carpe Occasio; thanks!

November 13 2009, 05:15 AM	#56
Puritan Vice Admiral	Re: Do you think T'Pol... If T'Pol were to return, I think it'd work better if she weren't played by Jolene Blalock (just as Kirk is not Shatner, Spock is not Nimoy, etc.) but an elderly actress playing an elderly woman to fit the elderly 170-year-old Vulcan she'd be right now. Basically the reverse of T'Pau in the Kir'Shara trilogy, where she's a new character to the general audience, who, if she came back, would have a new storyline self-sufficient within Trek XII... but her presence and name would be a tip of the hat to the longstanding fans.

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