J.J. Abrams Says Returning To Superman 'Would Be A Blast' - Page 2

Broccoli · November 7 2009, 04:19 AM

Tyson wrote:

Somebody get that fucking loser to some kind of directing classes first, he's a gigantic manchild with the camera. Star Trek was somehow watchable in spite of his involvement.

Wasn't his direction of the Lost pilot critically praised?

Admiral Buzzkill · November 7 2009, 05:26 AM

Tyson wrote:

Somebody get that fucking loser to some kind of directing classes first, he's a gigantic manchild with the camera.

Wrong.

I'd love to see Abrams's version of Superman.

Aragorn · November 7 2009, 05:37 AM

How could Tyson possibly be wrong? He called Abrams a gigantic manchild with the camera, and then proceeded to explain why by... uh... hmm...

Dusty Ayres · November 7 2009, 08:25 AM

Dennis wrote:

I'd love to see Abrams's version of Superman.

Me too. And here are a few things I want to see done differently:

* No godsfrackingdamm crystal technology for Krypton; study Star Trek: TOS, TNG, Voyager, and DS9 and use the design styles and philosophies to create an ordinary, Earth-like but alien Krypton; also study John Byrne's version of Superman for other design styles.

*Have Superman kick butt the way he's supposed to, with a hard attitude yet caring heart (Pine should combine Kirk's cockiness with Superman's hardness)

*Make Clark Kent like he was on the Superman: TAS show (portrayal of which was based on George Reeves's version of Clark Kent as seen in The Adventures Of Superman)

*Keep Perry White's attitude from Superman Returns-I love the fact that Frank Langella wasn't always screaming.

*Base the script on the 2004 miniseries Superman Birthright-it's the best origin story I've ever read, IMHO. It's best for me because the Clark Kent seen in it isn't a whiny emo boy like he is on Smallville.

Jax · November 7 2009, 12:45 PM

I can't see a Superman film ever being a big success because theres not the need nor want from movie goers for such a movie. A movie lke Superman needs a big budget because well its Superman

but that makes the movie less profitable and I think J.J would be smart to stay away. Also another reboot so soon would just confuse the average movie goer am afaird WB may of killed that franchise for possibly a whole generation.

Nerys Myk · November 7 2009, 06:38 PM

*Base the script on the 2004 miniseries Superman Birthright

How about, No! That was the worst take on Superman I've ever read. Nothing seemed on model.

Go with Byrne's Man of Steel as a template.

Caretaker · November 7 2009, 06:55 PM

Mr Light wrote:

Krypton doesn't explode?

It just disappeared thanks to a giant underground donkey wheel.

Dusty Ayres · November 7 2009, 10:03 PM

Nerys Myk wrote:

*Base the script on the 2004 miniseries Superman Birthright

How about, No! That was the worst take on Superman I've ever read. Nothing seemed on model.

Go with Byrne's Man of Steel as a template.

I disagree, it blew Byrne's version out of the water, and has a great action subplot in the invasion of Metropolis by the fake Kryptonians. Plus, being black, I loved Clark's sojourn in West Africa-better then what he does in Smallville.

Besides, Byrne's version was used, in the form of having his parents be still alive; that's enough of what needs to be kept around in a movie. And I also loved his being a vegetarian as well-something to inspire young and old people.

So all told, I think that J.J. should use this version of Superman in a movie.

Jax wrote:

Also another reboot so soon would just confuse the average movie goer am afaird WB may of killed that franchise for possibly a whole generation.

But that's what's going to happen anyway, Jax: another reboot, even though there was nothing really wrong with Superman Returns.

Tyson · November 8 2009, 02:19 AM

Broccoli wrote:

Tyson wrote:

Somebody get that fucking loser to some kind of directing classes first, he's a gigantic manchild with the camera. Star Trek was somehow watchable in spite of his involvement.

Wasn't his direction of the Lost pilot critically praised?

Lots of critics are just as stupid as the braindead fanbases so many properties enjoy.

Lens flare + nauseating camera shake /= good direction. Abrams is probably the mose overhyped motherfucker in the business.

*cue armies of fucktards barrelling to his defense.

Admiral Buzzkill · November 8 2009, 02:33 AM

Tyson wrote:

Lots of critics are just as stupid as the braindead fanbases so many properties enjoy.

That's your best argument - that we're stupid.

It won't wash. To put it politely, you've never posted anything that demonstrates you to be smarter than me or than most other folks here. So you're unqualified to make such a judgment.

Warped9 · November 8 2009, 04:31 AM

Samurai8472 wrote:

Maybe i'm not thinking that hard on this, but I would imagine tackling a Superman film wouldn't be that hard of a challenge right after making "Star Trek"

I remember the draft that had Krypton surviving. I think having it survive only to be destroyed at the end while Superman looks on helplessly would be GREAT.

After seeing Abrams fuck-up Star Trek I'd much rather he stay the hell away from Superman.

Cmndr J Crichton · November 8 2009, 04:38 AM

No One needs another re-telling of Superman's origins. Everyone knows that he comes from Krypton, cared for by Martha and Jonathan Kent, and gets a job at the Daily Planet. Heck, even Lois and Clark's relationship is well established iconagraphy (is that a word?) Why don't they make a story that shows that Superman has been around for a while. He's over the trust issues with Earthlings, and is a well recognized protector. An unknown powerful force comes to attack Earth, starting with Metropolis first of course. Villains like Darksied, Matello, and Braniac come to mind. Threats so big, the movie wouldn't have for Supes origin to be told yet again. That's what I loved about Returns.

It got away from all that. True it had Kryptonian elements, but on the whole, it wasn't an origin story. Heck. Darkseid, Matello, and Braniac could be a Superman trilogy! Oh, Lex could be there too. Perhaps in part 3 which could be Darkseid. Those three villains could give Superman a greater threat than pushing a giant continent into space. I see this new trilogy I just made up in three bouts:

1: Braniac, not an easy fight, supes will have a run for his money, though.

2. Matello, a harder fight. Could nearly lose the battle, until one of the human characters saves him.

3. Darkseid. His greatest battle. Supes gives his all against Kalebeck, and Darkseid and repells an alien invasion.

Sorry for the rant. Need sleep!

November 8 2009, 04:38 AM

I'd rather have Brad Bird take on Superman than JJ Abrams.

Admiral Buzzkill · November 8 2009, 04:42 AM

The only Superman story that bears retelling, from generation to generation, is the origin story. Far more than any similar character (Batman is probably second) Superman's origin story is his story.

November 8 2009, 04:47 AM

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Agreed, I mentioned in another thread that another way to get Superman into a movie is a Legion Of Superheroes movie...in a Justice League movie there would be too many iconic characters(Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Latern, Martian Manhunters...etc) JL Unlimited Superman just blended in with the other heroes. In a live action L* movie Superman would be the lead. Like the L* animated series.

November 7 2009, 05:37 AM	#18
Aragorn Admiral	Re: J.J. Abrams Says Returning To Superman 'Would Be A Blast' How could Tyson possibly be wrong? He called Abrams a gigantic manchild with the camera, and then proceeded to explain why by... uh... hmm...

November 7 2009, 12:45 PM	#20
Jax Admiral Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland	Re: J.J. Abrams Says Returning To Superman 'Would Be A Blast' I can't see a Superman film ever being a big success because theres not the need nor want from movie goers for such a movie. A movie lke Superman needs a big budget because well its Superman but that makes the movie less profitable and I think J.J would be smart to stay away. Also another reboot so soon would just confuse the average movie goer am afaird WB may of killed that franchise for possibly a whole generation. __________________ Brave (B) Great & Powerful Oz (B-) Hunger Games (B-) American Reunion (B) Milk (B-) The Insider (B+) The Rainmaker (B-) God Bless America (B-) It's Kind of a Funny Story (B-) Iron Man 3 (B+) Star Trek Into Darkness (A-)

November 8 2009, 04:38 AM	#27
Cmndr J Crichton Commodore Location: Moya	Re: J.J. Abrams Says Returning To Superman 'Would Be A Blast' No One needs another re-telling of Superman's origins. Everyone knows that he comes from Krypton, cared for by Martha and Jonathan Kent, and gets a job at the Daily Planet. Heck, even Lois and Clark's relationship is well established iconagraphy (is that a word?) Why don't they make a story that shows that Superman has been around for a while. He's over the trust issues with Earthlings, and is a well recognized protector. An unknown powerful force comes to attack Earth, starting with Metropolis first of course. Villains like Darksied, Matello, and Braniac come to mind. Threats so big, the movie wouldn't have for Supes origin to be told yet again. That's what I loved about Returns. It got away from all that. True it had Kryptonian elements, but on the whole, it wasn't an origin story. Heck. Darkseid, Matello, and Braniac could be a Superman trilogy! Oh, Lex could be there too. Perhaps in part 3 which could be Darkseid. Those three villains could give Superman a greater threat than pushing a giant continent into space. I see this new trilogy I just made up in three bouts: 1: Braniac, not an easy fight, supes will have a run for his money, though. 2. Matello, a harder fight. Could nearly lose the battle, until one of the human characters saves him. 3. Darkseid. His greatest battle. Supes gives his all against Kalebeck, and Darkseid and repells an alien invasion. Sorry for the rant. Need sleep! __________________ A Digital Frontier to shape the human condition...not just a book plug.

November 8 2009, 04:38 AM	#28
Jetfire Guest	Re: J.J. Abrams Says Returning To Superman 'Would Be A Blast' I'd rather have Brad Bird take on Superman than JJ Abrams.

November 8 2009, 04:42 AM	#29
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: J.J. Abrams Says Returning To Superman 'Would Be A Blast' The only Superman story that bears retelling, from generation to generation, is the origin story. Far more than any similar character (Batman is probably second) Superman's origin story is his story. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

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November 8 2009, 04:47 AM	#30
Jetfire Guest	Re: J.J. Abrams Says Returning To Superman 'Would Be A Blast' ^ Agreed, I mentioned in another thread that another way to get Superman into a movie is a Legion Of Superheroes movie...in a Justice League movie there would be too many iconic characters(Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Latern, Martian Manhunters...etc) JL Unlimited Superman just blended in with the other heroes. In a live action L* movie Superman would be the lead. Like the L* animated series.