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Old December 18 2009, 10:52 PM   #241
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Re: Complete Farscape on DVD Nov 17

So how's everyone who's rewatching Farscape doing. Watched Suns and Lovers last night and one thing struck me. While it was hilarious, and cool, and awesome, was Pilot's evil laugh a slight bit out of character. It just seemed so unexpected coming from him that hearing it might be one of the oddest things I've seen from Farscape yet.
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Old December 18 2009, 11:08 PM   #242
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Re: Complete Farscape on DVD Nov 17

"A Clockwork Nebari" seemed less impressive the second time around. I don't know - maybe because I knew of course it'd all come to nothing in the end, but I don't know.

The whole Clockwork Orange bit is still the grossest thing in the series, I'll give it that.

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So how's everyone who's rewatching Farscape doing. Watched Suns and Lovers last night and one thing struck me. While it was hilarious, and cool, and awesome, was Pilot's evil laugh a slight bit out of character.
My toughts exactly. What the hell? It's probably the most incomprehensible misstep in the series entire run, in that I don't understand at what point from shooting to editing to filming nobody realised how that moment didn't work. Farscape rarely if ever has a character act so inexplicably out of character as in that moment.

A fine episode overall, though.
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Old December 18 2009, 11:40 PM   #243
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"I've got two hands, and I don't need your charity." ~John

That whole exchange is awesome, but I just love that line.
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Old December 19 2009, 02:59 AM   #244
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Re: Complete Farscape on DVD Nov 17

We've been watching them rather slowly. Started about 2 weeks ago and we've only just finished watching "Durka returns". Got on a Star Wars kick this week and finished that up last night so I imagine we'll pick it back up this weekend.
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Old December 19 2009, 03:49 AM   #245
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I just finished Into The Lion's Den Part 1. Which is sort of a mixed blessing; last time, my impression was that it's kind of downhill from here.
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Old December 19 2009, 04:36 AM   #246
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Holy crap, I just saw in the credits that Crais is the voice of Pilot?! Why have I never picked up on this before?
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Old December 19 2009, 04:56 AM   #247
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Re: Complete Farscape on DVD Nov 17

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I just finished Into The Lion's Den Part 1. Which is sort of a mixed blessing; last time, my impression was that it's kind of downhill from here.
So you didn't like Lions Den II or Dog with Two Bones? I thought that entire arc was beautifully done, and that cliffhanger was excellent.
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Old December 19 2009, 06:06 AM   #248
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Holy crap, I just saw in the credits that Crais is the voice of Pilot?! Why have I never picked up on this before?
He uses such a different intonation, and then that voice itself is modulated, that it's really impossible to tell, unless you're reading the end credits (where the voice actors re listed).

You can tell in The Peacekeeper Wars. I'm not sure if Lani Tupu wasn't quite able to do the voice after being away, or if they didn't modulate it correctly, but it sounds off in the miniseries, and much closer to Crais' voice.
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Old December 19 2009, 06:16 AM   #249
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I just finished Into The Lion's Den Part 1. Which is sort of a mixed blessing; last time, my impression was that it's kind of downhill from here.
So you didn't like Lions Den II or Dog with Two Bones? I thought that entire arc was beautifully done, and that cliffhanger was excellent.
And season four and PKW were great too. S4 might have been an overall slight step down from S3, but that's a small nitpick in my estimation.
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Old December 19 2009, 07:46 AM   #250
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I think Season 4 works much better on DVD. I love it, but I do remember being annoyed by it during the initial run just because it took so long to get into the main wormhole arc. It's a lot easier to stomach if you can breeze through it in a marathon, though.
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Old December 19 2009, 09:51 AM   #251
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Re: Complete Farscape on DVD Nov 17

Aren't most shows like that though. I mean I remember when I was watching Season 4 of Babylon 5 online (I have the DVDs now but this was earlier in the year) and I breezed through like 6 episodes because it was so captivating. Having to wait a week for each episode (And then several weeks if there is a break) just seems so old fashioned and out of date now.
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Old December 19 2009, 10:03 AM   #252
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Well, yeah, but I think it hurt Farscape the most in Season 4. After the awesome ending to Season 3, Season 4 just starts off completely off-track with characters missing and no explanation about what happened, and there really isn't a solid "main arc" episode again until the middle of the season with "Unrealized Realities."

Again, I love Season 4, even the first half, but I didn't realize how much I loved it until I got to rewatch it on DVD.
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Old December 19 2009, 11:40 AM   #253
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Re: Complete Farscape on DVD Nov 17

Another season 4 fan here. Having rewatched the series recently, season four is overall a step down from season three, and has some mediocre-to-abysmal episodes ("A Perfect Murder", anyone?); some of it feels a trifle of a retread (Scorpius to Grayza as Crais to Scorpius) but also features some excellent hours of Farscape.

The whole return-to-Earth arc and the TV special about is greatness, "Don Quixote" was fun... and the We're So Screwed concluding arc is every bit as good as the arcs in earlier seasons. Some of Crichton's best speeches are there, and this line stuck with me on this rewatching time around:

"I want wake up like an emperor."

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You can tell in The Peacekeeper Wars. I'm not sure if Lani Tupu wasn't quite able to do the voice after being away, or if they didn't modulate it correctly, but it sounds off in the miniseries, and much closer to Crais' voice.
If memory serves, they basically had a new guy doing the sound and he didn't know how the old guy did the Pilot modulation.

Now this will blow your mind: Jonathan Hardy, AKA Rygel, appeared onscreen in the series as a creator of the Leviathans during the "Kiss the Princess" arc.

Alright, since that's basically his voice on both characters it most absolutely will not blow your mind, but hush.
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Old December 20 2009, 05:13 AM   #254
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Isn't it called "A Prefect Murder?" I'd say the play on words in the title is the best thing about the episode, which isn't much of a compliment. Easily the worst of the season.
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Old December 20 2009, 11:20 PM   #255
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Isn't it called "A Prefect Murder?" I'd say the play on words in the title is the best thing about the episode, which isn't much of a compliment. Easily the worst of the season.
I would say worst of the series, personally. Tied with "I, E.T."
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