AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat

Nerys Ghemor · November 1 2009, 06:52 AM

Here's a WIP of my latest drawing...this is my AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat.

Their history is WAY different than their canon counterparts--in the Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius universe, this Dukat is a good man who helps lead the Cardassian resistance against his world's Bajoran occupiers. Despite the fact that he was taken captive and forced to act against his will on Bajor, he determined that he would not allow his captor to use the child for her twisted ends...and during this dark time in his life, his yearning to escape and rescue his daughter Ziyal from whatever the Pah-Wraith vedek had in mind for her was just about the only thing that kept him alive.

Now, back on Cardassia Prime, that dedication is still alive. And these two are much more alike than you would ever expect if all you knew was their canon counterparts...

Reference pic: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/...c70208fbd3.jpg

PSGarak · November 1 2009, 11:35 AM

Really nice! I love Ziyal's expression, and the connection between both is very obvious. I can't wait to see the finished project.

Deranged Nasat · November 1 2009, 11:48 AM

That's amazing, I love it

. Their eyes are wonderfully expressive, and the ridges and over features are really well drawn.

Nerys Ghemor · November 1 2009, 05:06 PM

Thanks, guys!

I've still got a lot of work to do, and a few tweaks I think I still want to make to the ridging and so on, but I'm having a lot of fun with it!

Nerys Ghemor · November 1 2009, 10:13 PM

Got a new scan, guys--and a title for the drawing! I call it "I've Got Your Back."

Did some adjusting on Dukat's neck ridges, and I think they flow a bit more naturally now.

One thing that I really love that the makeup artists did, when they created Ziyal's appearance was that they made the pattern of her eye ridges follow her father's almost exactly. You can really see the family resemblance! :-)

Nerys Ghemor · November 2 2009, 03:52 AM

OK...new progress scan! Still got a bit more work to do to get the basic shading on Ziyal's face. I've also decided I'm going to give this drawing the full treatment and come back with blending stumps as well, instead of just leaving it sketchy, so I'm going to have a lot more work left to do on this...

Nerys Ghemor · November 2 2009, 06:27 AM

OK, last update for the night.

Basic shading on the face is done--still need to do hair, clothes, and go back with a darker lead pencil for detail work, though. I'm hoping it will seem like Ziyal does have an ashen complexion, but not the same kind of grey her father has.

The scanner is being a little beeotch, unfortunately, but such is life!

Nerys Ghemor · November 3 2009, 01:45 AM

Getting close, but this still isn't the finished product. I've got to go back with darker-lead pencils to get the details and shading the way I want it. I'm SO looking forward to the finished product--and I'm the artist!

BTW...I can tell you that AU Dukat spends more time and effort on getting Ziyal nice clothes, and not quite so much on himself. Given their circumstances, that means his clothing is a little more worn, more likely to be patched or repaired, than hers.

BolianAuthor · November 3 2009, 03:28 AM

Not bad... looks good.

Nerys Ghemor · November 3 2009, 03:31 AM

Well, it's still not there yet--needs more depth, but I'm hoping to be done in the next few days.

MadMan1701A · November 3 2009, 04:05 AM

It looks fantastic to me. I don't have patience for pencil drawings, any more...

Nerys Ghemor · November 3 2009, 04:22 AM

LOL, that's my attitude about Photoshop/GIMP!

And thank you very much for looking!

PSGarak · November 3 2009, 08:36 AM

Good progress! The shading really makes it pop. I'm looking forward to the finished product.

Nerys Ghemor · November 3 2009, 08:03 PM

Thanks! I've got a bit of a cold, but I'll do what work I can on it.

Deranged Nasat · November 3 2009, 08:15 PM

This is fantastic

November 1 2009, 06:52 AM	#1
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Here's a WIP of my latest drawing...this is my AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat. Their history is WAY different than their canon counterparts--in the Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius universe, this Dukat is a good man who helps lead the Cardassian resistance against his world's Bajoran occupiers. Despite the fact that he was taken captive and forced to act against his will on Bajor, he determined that he would not allow his captor to use the child for her twisted ends...and during this dark time in his life, his yearning to escape and rescue his daughter Ziyal from whatever the Pah-Wraith vedek had in mind for her was just about the only thing that kept him alive. Now, back on Cardassia Prime, that dedication is still alive. And these two are much more alike than you would ever expect if all you knew was their canon counterparts... Reference pic: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/...c70208fbd3.jpg __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 1 2009, 11:35 AM	#2
PSGarak Fleet Captain Location: PSGarak takes candy from babies.	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Really nice! I love Ziyal's expression, and the connection between both is very obvious. I can't wait to see the finished project. __________________ Want fanfic? You got it. PSGarak's fanfic at Ad Astra

November 1 2009, 11:48 AM	#3
Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Location: Warped off into the sunset. With fond memories of most of you, and not a little sorrow at leaving.	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat That's amazing, I love it . Their eyes are wonderfully expressive, and the ridges and over features are really well drawn. __________________ We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.

November 1 2009, 05:06 PM	#4
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Thanks, guys! I've still got a lot of work to do, and a few tweaks I think I still want to make to the ridging and so on, but I'm having a lot of fun with it! __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 1 2009, 10:13 PM	#5
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Got a new scan, guys--and a title for the drawing! I call it "I've Got Your Back." Did some adjusting on Dukat's neck ridges, and I think they flow a bit more naturally now. One thing that I really love that the makeup artists did, when they created Ziyal's appearance was that they made the pattern of her eye ridges follow her father's almost exactly. You can really see the family resemblance! :-) __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

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November 2 2009, 03:52 AM	#6
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat OK...new progress scan! Still got a bit more work to do to get the basic shading on Ziyal's face. I've also decided I'm going to give this drawing the full treatment and come back with blending stumps as well, instead of just leaving it sketchy, so I'm going to have a lot more work left to do on this... __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 2 2009, 06:27 AM	#7
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat OK, last update for the night. Basic shading on the face is done--still need to do hair, clothes, and go back with a darker lead pencil for detail work, though. I'm hoping it will seem like Ziyal does have an ashen complexion, but not the same kind of grey her father has. The scanner is being a little beeotch, unfortunately, but such is life! __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 3 2009, 01:45 AM	#8
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Getting close, but this still isn't the finished product. I've got to go back with darker-lead pencils to get the details and shading the way I want it. I'm SO looking forward to the finished product--and I'm the artist! BTW...I can tell you that AU Dukat spends more time and effort on getting Ziyal nice clothes, and not quite so much on himself. Given their circumstances, that means his clothing is a little more worn, more likely to be patched or repaired, than hers. __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 3 2009, 03:28 AM	#9
BolianAuthor Writer, Battlestar Urantia Location: Torrance, California	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Not bad... looks good.

November 3 2009, 03:31 AM	#10
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Well, it's still not there yet--needs more depth, but I'm hoping to be done in the next few days. __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 3 2009, 04:05 AM	#11
MadMan1701A Commodore Location: Milton, FL	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat It looks fantastic to me. I don't have patience for pencil drawings, any more... __________________ -=MadMan=- Check out my new website! MadMan's Shipyard: www.madshipyard.com

November 3 2009, 04:22 AM	#12
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat LOL, that's my attitude about Photoshop/GIMP! And thank you very much for looking! __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 3 2009, 08:36 AM	#13
PSGarak Fleet Captain Location: PSGarak takes candy from babies.	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Good progress! The shading really makes it pop. I'm looking forward to the finished product. __________________ Want fanfic? You got it. PSGarak's fanfic at Ad Astra

November 3 2009, 08:03 PM	#14
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat Thanks! I've got a bit of a cold, but I'll do what work I can on it. __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

November 3 2009, 08:15 PM	#15
Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Location: Warped off into the sunset. With fond memories of most of you, and not a little sorrow at leaving.	Re: AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat This is fantastic __________________ We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.