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Old October 22 2008, 02:52 AM   #1
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India launches first moon mission

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7679818.stm

it's always good for more countries to join in
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Old October 22 2008, 02:56 AM   #2
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Re: India launches first moon mission

I hope their tech support lines for spacecraft are better than the ones for Linksys network gear!

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Old October 22 2008, 04:02 AM   #3
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I was just reading this. Excellent news. 2 year mapping project.
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Old October 23 2008, 12:26 AM   #4
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NASA and will never, ever reach Mars on its current budget
Don't get me started on Ares-I

whatever is left over the next few years will slowly be broken up or outsourced to India
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JJ22Df02.html
The Chandrayaan-1 payloads include the US's Miniature Synthetic Aperture Radar (MiniSAR) from the Applied Physics Laboratory, Johns Hopkins University and Naval Air Warfare Center, Bulgaria's Sub KeV Atom Reflecting Analyser (SARA) from the Institute of Space Physics, Germany's Near Infra Red spectrometer (SIR-2) from Germany's Max Plank Institute, Lindau, Bulgaria's Radiation Dose Monitor Experiment (RADOM), and the US's Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3) from Brown University and NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Not to be missed is the juicy irony of an Indian spacecraft carrying a NASA payload - the US led the global ban of high technology to India's space and nuclear program for decades after it tested its first atomic bomb in 1974. This, from the owner of the world's largest nuclear weapon arsenal, came as a blessing in disguise as Indian scientists brilliantly worked out indigenous technology that is now advanced enough for the US and European countries to have a piggyback ride in South Asia's first moon mission.

NASA is giving away its technology to save a few bucks on launch fees, what is it they say "penny wise but pound foolish" ?
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Old October 23 2008, 11:03 AM   #5
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What's foolish about it? The US saves a big buck by using cheaper foreign launchers and launches, and essentially donates nothing that India wouldn't already have had access to. The MiniSAR is just a (low-)tech demonstrator, intended to help out the corresponding all-US instrument on the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter in achieving some sort of scientific return from what otherwise is a limited proof-of-concept sortie.

And NASA is giving away its technology on a regular basis anyway. It's not as if its designs are national security secrets or anything. Basically anybody can go and see or photocopy the work being done on Ares or the LRO, and basically anybody can offer his or her input and expertise without needing to demonstrate six generations of US ancestry and a patriotic bone in the right arm.

The ban on tech transfer to India was symbolic only, a means of punishing India for possessing a nuclear weapon. India always had plenty of high tech available anyway: if the US banned it, the USSR was eager to provide it, and vice versa, until India's indigenous capabilities reached superpower level.

Frankly, I think India should start regulating its output of space technology, banning US piggyback loads until the Americans give up their nuclear arsenal...

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Old October 26 2009, 08:37 AM   #6
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LRO, Chandrayaan-1 Scientist Arrested for Espionage

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/10...for-espionage/

Times are tough, but you have to wonder what this guy was thinking. Stewart David Nozette, 52, who was involved in the recent discovery of water on the Moon by the Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft has been arrested for espionage for allegedly trying to sell details of US missile detection satellites in exchange for cash. Nozette was attempting to sell classified information to a person who he believed was an Israeli intelligence officer. Nozette is a fairly prominent scientist who helped conceive the 1994 Clementine mission to the Moon, and currently is a co-investigator on Chandrayaan-1, the Indian Moon mission, and on an instrument aboard the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.According to a 16th October FBI affidavit, Nozette was contacted last month by an undercover officer posing as an agent working for the Israeli Intelligence Agency. Nozette agreed to accept money in exchange for his past access to top secret documents







Panel Urges Cancellation of NASA Moon Plans

Posted on: Friday, 23 October 2009, 06:25
http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1...sa_moon_plans/
CDTA special independent panel is encouraging the White House to reconsider plans for having NASA send astronauts back for another walk on the moon.On Thursday, the panel’s chairman stated that NASA has picked the wrong destination with the wrong rocket. Ares, the test-flight version of the new rocket, is sitting and waiting for this month’s lift-off on a launch pad at Cape Canaveral.The panel members said NASA should start focusing on larger rockets, The Associated Press reported.Chairman Norman Augustine, of the panel put together by the White House to review NASA’s spaceflight plans, said it would be more logical to land on an asteroid nearby or on one of Mars’ moons. He claims that the trip to one of these destinations could take place sooner than going back to the moon in 15 years as NASA currently has tentatively planned.The plans to go back to the moon were initially pushed by former President George W. Bush following the 2003 Columbia space shuttle disaster.However, the problem with the moon-Mars plan is that there is not enough money to fund it since there have been budget diversions, the panel explained in a 155-page report. Beginning in 2014, NASA must have an additional $3 billion each year to support astronauts traveling beyond Earth’s orbit, the panel said.
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