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Old October 21 2009, 04:30 PM   #16
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Re: The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing - Discuss (SPOILERS)

I'm on Chapter Four right now an thoroughly enjoying this book. I like the conflict Archer is under...much different than the Xindi because he has heavy on his heart what happened with the Kobayashi Maru.

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Old October 21 2009, 05:28 PM   #17
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^ I kind of saw that coming after Mayweather's reaction after the Maru incident. One thing that did suprise me other than Hoshi was the apparent age of the Daedalus class.
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Old October 21 2009, 06:53 PM   #18
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^ I didn't really understand that - was that class new as of 2155 and as a result of the war? Or were there already there like the Intrepid class but in the background?

BTW, I'm on Chapter 23. . .
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Old October 21 2009, 09:27 PM   #19
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^ From the wording it does look like they are older than the NX class since they lack the warp 5 engine. They were never mentioned on ENT but I figured they were to be the warp 7 ships launched after Enterprise was retired. I know that both the year they came into the fleet & the name were never official but I thought somewhere it said they were launched after the war.

Regardless I'm liking the book & hope the rest of the war is covered someday.
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Old October 22 2009, 03:16 AM   #20
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I haven't had a chance to start it just yet, but my initial impression on receiving it was "wow! That's a hefty book!". It's bigger than previous Trek trade paperbacks from Pocket, and at 450-odd pages, it's reasonably heavy, too:

Yeah, it's almost comically large.
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Old October 22 2009, 03:27 AM   #21
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I have a digital copy on my Sony PRS 505 eBook Reader... it turns out at 1047 pages. I am looking forward to diving into this one. I'm thinking a Romulan War Era Sim may be in order after I finish this book up... hmm... anyone interested in crewing up the NX-03 Challenger or A Daedalus class ship?
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Old October 22 2009, 05:02 AM   #22
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^ From the wording it does look like they are older than the NX class since they lack the warp 5 engine. They were never mentioned on ENT but I figured they were to be the warp 7 ships launched after Enterprise was retired. I know that both the year they came into the fleet & the name were never official but I thought somewhere it said they were launched after the war.

Regardless I'm liking the book & hope the rest of the war is covered someday.
What makes you think it wouldn't be?
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Old October 22 2009, 04:23 PM   #23
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I really like what I've read in this book so far.This book really explores alot of diffrent impacts the Romulan war is taking on all the charactersine one way or another.
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Old October 22 2009, 07:47 PM   #24
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34 pages into it so far and I have two thoughts:

1. Someone's going to complain about the idea of the United Earth Starfleet having an orbital space dock named after President Obama, but I think it's completely reasonable of Mister Martin to include that detail. Barack Obama is a historic President -- the first African-American President of the United States. Whatever else he does, that's something he'll always be remembered for, and it certainly ranks up there with accomplishments that we've seen ships and stations named for in Star Trek in the past.

2. On page 34, T'Pau is referred to by the title of "Administrator," implying that she holds the same office that V'Las held, yet Kobayashi Maru had established that she held the office of First Minister of the Confederacy of Vulcan. Further, the Vulcan High Command is referenced earlier in the book, yet "Awakening" had established that the Vulcan High Command had been dissolved, something confirmed when Kobayashi Maru established that the Vulcan head of government was now First Minister rather than Administrator. What's up with this apparent continuity glitch?
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Old October 22 2009, 09:36 PM   #25
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Well, it is a hefty tome.....
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Old October 22 2009, 09:42 PM   #26
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It certainly is a hefty book with alot going on with the events of the Romulan war and nice character moments we get to see certain events are unfolding on several different worlds.This story is taking alot of unexpected twists and turns.
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Old October 22 2009, 11:37 PM   #27
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^ From the wording it does look like they are older than the NX class since they lack the warp 5 engine. They were never mentioned on ENT but I figured they were to be the warp 7 ships launched after Enterprise was retired. I know that both the year they came into the fleet & the name were never official but I thought somewhere it said they were launched after the war.

Regardless I'm liking the book & hope the rest of the war is covered someday.
What makes you think it wouldn't be?
I thought I read here somewhere that the Romulan War was to be a trilogy but was cut to BTRW instead. That & I can't remember if ENT is on the schedual for next year either, the big thing in '10 is the Typhon Pact & Post Trek XI books I think.

Someone refresh my memory circuits please.
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Old October 23 2009, 12:14 AM   #28
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I just finished the book today and it was awesome. I find very little to fault with it besides Hoshi not getting a promotion and being a little confused as to Valdore's status at the end. I loved the length and it really feels like at best we go the first part of a trilogy. I hate that there isn't an Enterprise book for next year because it will really suck to go two years before the continuation. The Daedelus class being older than the NX shocked me but I can go with it. It was nice to finally see some crew change also. I feel pity for the NX class though. So tragic.
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Old October 23 2009, 03:37 AM   #29
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Actually, the fact that the Daedalus pre-dates the NX was established in Last Full Measure.
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Regardless I'm liking the book & hope the rest of the war is covered someday.
What makes you think it wouldn't be?
Because this one doesn't, and no future ones have been announced. They may one day be, but until they *are*, it's meaningless.
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