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Old October 21 2009, 10:43 PM   #91
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Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in Louisiana

My magic 8-ball and my analysis say he might be, but based on what he says (since I can't read his mind) he is not. It isn't good enough for me as I am, whether I am sitting in a jury box (if simply being a racist was a crime) or posting my opinion on a BBS, to call him a racist. I try to hold myself to the same burden of proof all the time.
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Old October 21 2009, 10:51 PM   #92
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We don't need to read his mind. His actions speak for themselves. He may have even convinced himself that he's not a racist, and I'm sure he'd say so if asked, but his actions have already proven that he is. The actions *themselves* are evidence.
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Old October 21 2009, 10:53 PM   #93
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Not for me. Actions like these are not enough in my mind to make someone a racist, especially in the face of his stated motivations, which are not. Things just aren't that simple to me. If they are for you, then fine. But I cannot agree.
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Old October 24 2009, 06:52 AM   #94
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Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in Louisiana

This thread reminds me of something I've mentioned to my boss about someone we both know, who reminds me of my former boss' business partner. He would often say hateful or hurtful things, then laugh and say, "I'm not a bigot - I hate everyone equally." I never had the nerve to say it to him, but I will say it to this other person if he ever says anything hateful in front of me: "That's just a crutch you're depending on to allow you to say hateful things."

(I'm waiting to say it not because I don't believe the person who told me what he'd said - I believe that person implicitly - but because it would be out of the blue for me to say something like that without immediate cause.)
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Old October 24 2009, 06:56 AM   #95
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He would often say hateful or hurtful things, then laugh and say, "I'm not a bigot - I hate everyone equally."
I think Gunnery Sgt. Hartmann from Full Metal Jacket also said that.
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Old October 24 2009, 10:09 AM   #96
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A lot of people say that; the proper response is, "That makes you the worst possible kind of bigot."
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Old October 24 2009, 03:43 PM   #97
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You know the easy way to solve this thing? Go to an another judge. Why cause all of this fuss just to get married. If he does get fired your losing an experienced judge who could be useful in cases that doesn't involve race.
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Old October 24 2009, 07:59 PM   #98
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If he can't do his job and can't obey the law, he needs to be fired.
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Old October 24 2009, 09:26 PM   #99
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If he can't do his job and can't obey the law, he needs to be fired.
True, no argument here. It is also true, however, that this guy was hardly being an insurmountable obstacle to interracial marriage.
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Old October 24 2009, 10:45 PM   #100
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You know the easy way to solve this thing? Go to an another judge. Why cause all of this fuss just to get married. If he does get fired your losing an experienced judge who could be useful in cases that doesn't involve race.
Yea, it is easy to solve, fire him.
If his judgment is so flawed in this area, then I don't want his kind of experience. He has no business in any government position of authority.
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Old October 24 2009, 10:49 PM   #101
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Also it doesn't matter if he is a racist of not, he can't deny them services based on race. But if he does not advocate one race being inherently superior to another then by definition he is not a (admitted) racist.
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Old October 24 2009, 11:01 PM   #102
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As a judge I would expect the finer points of his flawed logic wouldn't escape him. Also louisiana. Join the dots but don't jump to conclusions. I just think the reasoning is pathetic and whats more, it represents cowardice in the face of one of the most retarded aspects of human behaviour.
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Old October 25 2009, 06:39 AM   #103
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You know the easy way to solve this thing? Go to an another judge. Why cause all of this fuss just to get married. If he does get fired your losing an experienced judge who could be useful in cases that doesn't involve race.
Yeah, quit making waves you uppity minorities and interracial couples. Just go with the flow and things will change on their own, except for the occasional justice of the peace who's trapped in a 1950s time warp. Seriously, that's the argument you want to go with? Just forget about it and move on?

Don't fire the judge because he might be good in non-racial cases? Does he segregate his docket so that he never rules on minorities being charged with misdemeanor crimes? Because I'm not too confident of his ability to remain impartial on that either.
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Old November 4 2009, 12:28 AM   #104
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Please excuse me for bring the thread back, but I have news confirmation that was informed by my friend. He just resigned.
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Old November 4 2009, 12:46 AM   #105
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Good! Fucker!
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