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Old October 17 2009, 11:16 PM   #16
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Re: Duplicate Earth in Miri

Lots of terraforming by the Preservers or their equals?
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Old October 17 2009, 11:17 PM   #17
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Yeah, that duplicate Earth thing was a bit of a WTF moment, wasn't it? I did assume they were going somewhere with it, but evidently not. I love the fact that, even though it made absolutely no sense whatsoever, it is nonetheless canon and when we watch DS9 or Voyager we have to remember that somewhere out there is a planet that looks exactly the same as Earth.
They were going for a way to save money.
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Old October 18 2009, 02:59 PM   #18
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That was actually what I liked best about that whole episode... that it showed us that even a non-human humanoid could be repeated through the galaxy, and everyone didn't have to look just like humans. There could be more than one or two species that look just like Vulcans as well. Pity we never saw any Klingonoids or Ferenginoids, hehe.
Actually, we did get some Klingonoids in the form of Talarians in TNG's "Suddenly Human". They had leather like uniforms kinda like Klingons, and a lite version of head ridges. And of course, they were a warrior race.

As for Feregnoids, there was a bizarro version..."We look for things...to make us go..."
The Dopterians are identified as being related to the Ferengi, even sharing a similar brain structure.
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Old October 20 2009, 05:09 PM   #19
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They were going for a way to save money.
Not really, since 'Earth-like cultures' were already analyzed in Star Trek even this early on. What would the 'save money' really accomplish? Stock shot of the planet (they already had lots of those)? Dialog references in the teaser that are completely dropped afterwards?
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Old October 20 2009, 07:43 PM   #20
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They were going for a way to save money.
Not really, since 'Earth-like cultures' were already analyzed in Star Trek even this early on. What would the 'save money' really accomplish? Stock shot of the planet (they already had lots of those)? Dialog references in the teaser that are completely dropped afterwards?
Using "Mayberry" and existing props and costumes. Which was one of Roddenberry's selling points to the suits. I assume the episode was written with that in mind.
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Old October 20 2009, 08:34 PM   #21
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Using "Mayberry" and existing props and costumes. Which was one of Roddenberry's selling points to the suits. I assume the episode was written with that in mind.
Point being, they had already done that with several episodes by the time of "Miri", and didn't resort to the extremity of the Earth Clone that "Miri" did.
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Old October 20 2009, 10:58 PM   #22
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Using "Mayberry" and existing props and costumes. Which was one of Roddenberry's selling points to the suits. I assume the episode was written with that in mind.
Point being, they had already done that with several episodes by the time of "Miri", and didn't resort to the extremity of the Earth Clone that "Miri" did.
"Miri" is listed as the 11th regular episode. Looking at the list on Memory Alpha I'm not seeing a "Near Earth-like Planet" episode ahead of it. Looks like it was the first. "Bread and Circuses" and "Omega Glory" weren't till Season Two.
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Old October 20 2009, 11:12 PM   #23
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My way of dealing with "Miri": The Revisionist Deconstruction of Apocrypha, or to put it another way, no, the planet in question wasn't really identical to Earth, down to the continental configuration. Rather, it was a Class-M world with conditions within fractions of a percent to Earth.

I know, I know, once you start down this road, foreve will it dominate...sorry, wrong universe. I recognize the slippery-slope here. But, do you want to be faithful or do you want it all to make sense?
I figured it was just a pretty cool, imaginative and uh, somewhat disturbing skiffy TV story.

The more energy the Trek people and the fans put into explaining every little thing over the decades, the less imaginative and interesting Star Trek became. I don't suppose the two are related.
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Old October 21 2009, 05:38 AM   #24
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"Miri" is listed as the 11th regular episode. Looking at the list on Memory Alpha I'm not seeing a "Near Earth-like Planet" episode ahead of it. Looks like it was the first. "Bread and Circuses" and "Omega Glory" weren't till Season Two.
It doesn't have to be a literal Earth clone for 'Miri's plot, a similar-developed world will do, and there are lots of them. There wasn't anything about 'Miri's backstory that required Earth parallel history after all.
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Old October 21 2009, 05:49 AM   #25
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Thats true. So we are left with it being a dramatic hook for the teaser and keeping expenses down. Beyond that, I'm not sure the writers or producers gave it much thought. Nor did they expect people to be nitpicking it decades later.
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Old October 21 2009, 11:39 PM   #26
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Since someone already brought up the Q, you could explain Miri-Earth as an early Q "trial" for humans. Confront them with something that radically improbable and see how they respond.
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