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Old September 6 2013, 02:33 PM   #91
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Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

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And as for Stargate... I would like to see a return of Kurt Russell and James Spader. The Stargate story can allow for that. Open up the Stargate 30 years later.
Except the article says they won't use Russell or Spader because they're "too old."
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Old September 6 2013, 02:58 PM   #92
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Well, if it's a reboot they're after then this clearly makes sense. Although I could see them in a potential cameo if they didn't think it would be a waste of their time. Either way, not a big deal.
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Old September 6 2013, 04:22 PM   #93
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And as for Stargate... I would like to see a return of Kurt Russell and James Spader. The Stargate story can allow for that. Open up the Stargate 30 years later.
Except the article says they won't use Russell or Spader because they're "too old."
And that was my point.
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Old September 6 2013, 04:28 PM   #94
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Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

You would think that Smith after the utter failure that is called After Earth would be eager to revive his career with a sure guaranteed success of ID4 [2] and be less concerned about the money.
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Old September 6 2013, 05:26 PM   #95
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You would think that Smith after the utter failure that is called After Earth would be eager to revive his career with a sure guaranteed success of ID4 [2] and be less concerned about the money.
Well, of course he's concerned about the money. But, the fact that he's back in talks to do the movie is pretty indicative of his career at the moment.
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Old September 8 2013, 07:58 AM   #96
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I like the idea of a resource starved earth (due to the invasion by aliens) invading some other alien planet the same way they invaded us, and us getting our asses handed back to us....
i'd call it Memorial day...though it'll sound like an Avatar ripoff (because you'll need at least SOME humans to rebel against the new Earther invaders)

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I thought they were already setting up ID4-2 with the son of Will Smith's character from the first one. The kid would probably grow up to be part of the next wave of soldiers against the aliens.
Definitely makes sense to have the young children come back with a role...and you can cast from a number of people (and also get pre-filmed flashbacks)

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Adam Baldwin needs to be back and be promoted to General in charge of the Earth Defense Fleet.
That would be pretty cool.
Definitely one of those things that can/should be done.


Also, I would have Will Smith as a cameo...kinda like Robotech's Rick Hunter who "got lost" during New Generation. But he'd show up at the end and straighten things out.
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Old September 8 2013, 04:25 PM   #97
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You would think that Smith after the utter failure that is called After Earth would be eager to revive his career with a sure guaranteed success of ID4 [2] and be less concerned about the money.
Well, of course he's concerned about the money. But, the fact that he's back in talks to do the movie is pretty indicative of his career at the moment.
I think Will Smith is finally realizing that he and his family aren't the big shots he thought and now will come back to get his career on track again.
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Old September 8 2013, 05:47 PM   #98
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STOP picking on Smith!!! Every successful actor, has had a movie not perform well. And Earth has taken in a total $243,611,982 million worldwide, (and will rake in more with dvd/blu ray and pay tv sales coming in the next few months) so I don't see this as the HUGE disaster movie critics enjoyed making it out to be.

Yes M Night is a lightning rod for controversy. But I keep getting the feeling that people seem more interested in joining in on bashing Smith for reasons having nothing to do with how good-or bad, this movie actually was.
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Old September 8 2013, 11:28 PM   #99
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STOP picking on Smith!!! Every successful actor, has had a movie not perform well. And Earth has taken in a total $243,611,982 million worldwide, (and will rake in more with dvd/blu ray and pay tv sales coming in the next few months) so I don't see this as the HUGE disaster movie critics enjoyed making it out to be.

Yes M Night is a lightning rod for controversy. But I keep getting the feeling that people seem more interested in joining in on bashing Smith for reasons having nothing to do with how good-or bad, this movie actually was.

The movie wasn't horrible. My 8 year old girl loved it...and I liked it too.

Not a franchise starter as was hoped, but not horrid.

ANd poor M. Night....the Last Airbender wasn't awful either. Maybe not great for ADULTS...but I think works for kids (the intended audience).

Hope he can find something, now that his "6th Sense" "aura" has been completely shaken off.
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Old September 9 2013, 12:46 AM   #100
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ANd poor M. Night....the Last Airbender wasn't awful either. Maybe not great for ADULTS...but I think works for kids (the intended audience).
No, no, it was most assuredly awful. On every level. Not only was it an insulting adaptation, it wasn't even a good film in it's own right. Any kid who enjoyed that should get tested for possible brain damage. Ed Wood could have done better. Honestly, I have no idea how MNS keeps getting funding for these things. He hasn't put out a *good* film since 'Unbreakable' and that's been over a decade now I think.


Anyway, are they really moving ahead with ID4.2? I've heard rumours about this (and the "official" Stargate sequel) for years.
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Old September 9 2013, 01:08 AM   #101
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You sure you're not confusing opinion with fact?
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Old September 9 2013, 01:22 AM   #102
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JarodRussell wrote: View Post
You sure you're not confusing opinion with fact?
About Airbender? No. Not even slightly...well OK, I'll concede that the costume design, cinematography and editing was competent and that some of the actors did the best they could. But that's all.

I know art is subjective (I am an artist after all), but being art doesn't mean it's any good. Quality can be an objective thing. Bad writing is bad writing, bad acting is bad acting and Airbender was a bad movie.

Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. I have a soft spot for a number of bad films, but that doesn't make them better films.
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Old September 9 2013, 09:47 PM   #103
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$243,611,982 million
$243,611,982 million = $243,611,982,000,000. That's more than the GDP of the entire world.
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Old September 10 2013, 04:24 PM   #104
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Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

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$243,611,982 million
$243,611,982 million = $243,611,982,000,000. That's more than the GDP of the entire world.
Like you didn't know what he meant. You are not Siri.
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Old September 11 2013, 08:34 PM   #105
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Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

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$243,611,982 million
$243,611,982 million = $243,611,982,000,000. That's more than the GDP of the entire world.
So. If we can muster up $243,611,983 can we bribe them to not make it?
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