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Old March 15 2009, 10:55 PM   #1
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Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

Ok here goes,

The writers really screwed up Deanna Troi IIRC from TNG Companion
She was supposed to be more intelligent than most of the crew.
Intelligence Wise: Deanna + Data = Spock
As well the Deanna character was also supposed to be used to explore what it means to be human as well as Data. Deanna was supposed to be a Telepath but during the writing of Encounter At Farpoint she was downgraded to Empath she was supposed to be 1/4 human changed to 1/2.
Turned into Just Eye Candy.

One thing I'm GLAD they did change Betazoid Females were supposed to have 4 of them where would the other 2

So what would you have done with Deanna Troi?
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Old March 15 2009, 10:57 PM   #2
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

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Old March 15 2009, 11:03 PM   #3
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

So here are a few of my ideas:
Kept her a full Telepath
1/4 Human
More intelligent than most of the crew

Episoide Ideas: Spock's Brain A re-work of this for Troi her Brain get implanted inside a being LIKE Tin Man

More Later
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Old March 15 2009, 11:12 PM   #4
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

I'd have had her in uniform from the beginning. Probably full telepath or more powerful empath. I'd have given her more interesting lines than "pain... terrible pain..." etc.
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Old March 15 2009, 11:25 PM   #5
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

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Sometimes I wish Skin of Evil had been later in the run year 3 or 4 and Armus had tried to merge with Deanna. The merger even if it was for a short time would have had changed both of them Permanently somehow, that would have been interesting.
Thought I re-post this here
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Old March 15 2009, 11:52 PM   #6
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

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Skin of Evil Version 2:

I still think
Skin of Evil would work better as Season 3 or 4
That Deanna and Armus Merge as a result Deanna becomes an Evil Twin Version [E.T.V.] of herself and Armus becomes Good. E.T.V. Deanna is taken back to the ship where she starts to turn on the CREW and use her Telepathic powers on the crew to harm them, the Doctor and the Captian have to figue out if a mind transfer has taken place between Deanna & Armus, Armus is cntrolling Deanna, is Armus a shape-shifter and assumed Deanna's idenity after killing her or is it something else.

The crew has to trun to the Good Armus help

2 Parter or 3 Parter
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Old March 15 2009, 11:59 PM   #7
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

TS-1838-SWATH wrote: View Post
So here are a few of my ideas:
Kept her a full Telepath
1/4 Human
More intelligent than most of the crew

Episoide Ideas: Spock's Brain A re-work of this for Deanna her Brain gets implanted inside a being LIKE Tin Man

More Later
I forgot to add Deanna Troi is a Telekinetic
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Old March 16 2009, 12:09 AM   #8
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

1. In uniform from the start.

2. Actually attended the Starfleet Medical Academy and has a degree in Psych/Xenopsych.

3. Better actress, and better looking actress, but not turned into "eye candy".

4. No "Betazoid accent" that no other Betazoid actor is ever going to duplicate.

5. No backstory relationship with Riker.

6. Fully bisexual, handled in a mature way.

7. Fully Betazoid, and Betazoids would merely be Empaths.
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Old March 16 2009, 12:13 AM   #9
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

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Sometimes I wish Skin of Evil had been later in the run year 3 or 4 and Armus had tried to merge with Deanna. The merger even if it was for a short time would have had changed both of them Permanently somehow, that would have been interesting.
Thought I re-post this here
TS-1838-SWATH wrote: View Post
More on
Skin of Evil Version 2:

I still think
Skin of Evil would work better as Season 3 or 4
That Deanna and Armus Merge as a result Deanna becomes an Evil Twin Version [E.T.V.] of herself and Armus becomes Good. E.T.V. Deanna is taken back to the ship where she starts to turn on the CREW and use her Telepathic powers on the crew to harm them, the Doctor and the Captian have to figue out if a mind transfer has taken place between Deanna & Armus, Armus is cntrolling Deanna, is Armus a shape-shifter and assumed Deanna's idenity after killing her or is it something else.

The crew has to trun to the Good Armus help

2 Parter or 3 Parter
TS-1838-SWATH wrote: View Post
TS-1838-SWATH wrote: View Post
So here are a few of my ideas:
Kept her a full Telepath
1/4 Human
More intelligent than most of the crew

Episoide Ideas: Spock's Brain A re-work of this for Deanna her Brain gets implanted inside a being LIKE Tin Man

More Later
I forgot to add Deanna Troi is a Telekinetic
Interesting ideas.

Also, just so you know, the board software here allows for post-editing and it's generally appreciated if you can combine posts together rather than multi-posting consecutively like you did upthread. Thanks.
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Old March 16 2009, 12:40 AM   #10
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

I would have given her less dialogue along the lines of "I sense you are feeling profoundly sad" when someone's bawling their eyes out next to her. Plus, as everyone else has said, I would have had her in uniform from the beginning
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Old March 16 2009, 12:57 AM   #11
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

I think the sum total of my answer to this is that I'd give her more to do.

I reckon what Troi, Crusher, and La Forge suffered most from was a lack of plot-driving action. Barring the episodes which focus on their characters, everything they do tends to be reactive rather than active. Troi gets the worst of it, on account of the way her empathic powers are used - they never really developed any proactive way for her to use her talents.
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Old March 16 2009, 02:48 AM   #12
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

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Ok here goes,

...

One thing I'm GLAD they did change Betazoid Females were supposed to have 4 of them where would the other 2

So what would you have done with Deanna Troi?
On her back it would have made slow dancing more fun



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1. In uniform from the start.
..3. Better actress, and better looking actress, but not turned into "eye candy".

4. No "Betazoid accent" that no other Betazoid actor is ever going to duplicate.

5. No backstory relationship with Riker.

6. Fully bisexual, handled in a mature way.
Terri Hatcher as Deanna
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Old March 16 2009, 03:06 AM   #13
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

I think it might've created some conflict if the show really went into the implications of what an invasion of privacy it is to have someone around who's constantly reading your private thoughts and emotions. That's something about Troi that always creeped me out, but was never addressed.
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Old March 16 2009, 03:35 AM   #14
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

Another thought I had was make Deanna Starfleet Intelligence and not the ship's Counsellor (sp?). Full Telepath and Telekinetic then we could see her contribute to ship’s security and carry out standard interrogation and telepathic interrogation of those who are trying to harm the Enterprise
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Old March 16 2009, 03:43 AM   #15
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Re: Deanna Troi: What changes would you make

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But what if they had put ALL Four In Front
Terri Hatcher as Deanna Interesting
She was transporter operator in The Outrageous Okona
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