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Old October 8 2009, 08:09 AM   #1
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Old October 8 2009, 02:05 PM   #2
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I wonder whether or not the people in Germany will actually be speaking, you know, German. 9 out of 10 times when they have scenes like this (e.g. in season one of Fringe) what they say is barely intelligible.
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Old October 8 2009, 08:22 PM   #3
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Yeah, that's one thing I've enjoyed about Heroes--the Japanese with subtitles. Of course I can't tell if the Japanese is authentic or not, so...
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Old October 8 2009, 09:10 PM   #4
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Nazis !!!

Hooray for Hollywood !!
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Old October 9 2009, 01:07 AM   #5
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I missed the first five minutes. Did anything important happen?
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Old October 9 2009, 01:09 AM   #6
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Nazis are fundamental for any good science-fiction program.
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Old October 9 2009, 01:10 AM   #7
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I missed the first five minutes. Did anything important happen?
The characters played by John Cho and Joseph Fiennes were killed off, but other than that, no.
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Old October 9 2009, 01:14 AM   #8
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I missed the first five minutes. Did anything important happen?
The characters played by John Cho and Joseph Fiennes were killed off, but other than that, no.
Interesting. So the guys who are supposedly Demetri and Benford now are evil Nazi clones?

Makes sense.
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Old October 9 2009, 01:15 AM   #9
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I missed the first five minutes. Did anything important happen?
The characters played by John Cho and Joseph Fiennes were killed off, but other than that, no.
Interesting. So the guys who are supposedly Demetri and Benford now are evil Nazi clones?

Makes sense.
Sets up the entrances of Professor Indiana Jones and Hellboy into the plot.
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Old October 9 2009, 01:58 AM   #10
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How many people think Demetri busted the future customs agent for the bong just to change the future?
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Old October 9 2009, 01:59 AM   #11
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Was that a solar flare?
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Old October 9 2009, 02:34 AM   #12
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How many people think Demetri busted the future customs agent for the bong just to change the future?
I doubt it. That's not something the FBI gets involved with. It probably did plant the idea of changing the future into his head, though.
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How many people think Demetri busted the future customs agent for the bong just to change the future?
I would have turned him in, just to see if the future can be changed. If a death sentence was hanging over my head, I'd want to know if I had a chance to escape it.
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Old October 9 2009, 03:39 AM   #14
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That was a let-down after the first two episodes, I felt. The A plot went nowhere, and the B plots, such as they were, were fairly uninteresting. We've already got a marriage-in-trouble storyline in the foreground, so why are we echoing the theme so closely with Demetri lying to his fiancée (repeating the old and by-now annoying 'Lost' pattern of characters just not talking to each other)? Ditto, don't care about drunken-beard-guy despairing--set him searching after his daughter already, instead of just moping around. He already has a pretty good idea of where he needs to go. The main plot seemed to want to tackle an ethical issue that both seemed besides the point of the series, and at the same time felt relunctant, pulling away from the conflict of the situation, with a completely cold spat between Mark and Janis, and the manufactured outrage of the two-dimensional German agent (and what was up with that which-country-did-worse-things pissing contest at the beginning?). I kept expecting we were being set up to learn something about Janis, if only that she had family that got caught up in the Holocaust, but that fizzled... unless she said something while they were looking at the dead crows (my antiquated VCR cut off with thirty-something seconds left to go). Speaking of which, the whole 'crows died' bit seemed pointless, certainly not worth letting the old Nazi fuck go, particularly since you'd think somebody would have noticed a mass animal die-off sooner or later; there are ornithologists out there who do nothing but study this kind of thing. I figure it'll factor in at some later point, but this episode did nothing to move the arc along. I did like that a bunch of FBI agents from the pilot turned up again here, suggesting recurring roles and a large cast, and it's always good to see Gina Torres get work, even if in an utterly discardable role, but otherwise, between the lack of plotting, the repetitive mindless gibbering about faith, and the dullness of the sideshows, it's a fairly sizeable dip in quality from the first two.

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Old October 9 2009, 03:45 AM   #15
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After what seemed like alot of buildup, the Nazi turned out to be pretty much a bust, IMO.

The 137 was just a swipe to implicate the Jews (like any good Nazi would do). The crows were more interesting....though still not mind-blowing or anything.

I gave this episode an 'average'. Not as good as the last two, but okay.

And no...I don't think they should have let the old coot out. Not for those lame-ass clues.
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