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Old September 27 2009, 12:30 PM   #61
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The renovations of the early 1970s vastly altered the interior of Yankee Stadium. It was easier to redress Tiger Stadium, and add CGI, than it would have been to try and film in Yankee Stadium.
But given two choices - use a LOT of CGI on Tiger Stadium, or a tiny bit of CGI on Yankee Stadium II - then why choose the latter? If they just took Yankee Stadium II, added the frieze, and called it even, obviously that wouldn't look totally authentic, but it would be good enough. And they wouldn't have to digitally recreate the Bronx, either, since it would basically already be there. Of course the Bronx in 1961 would look different than the Bronx in (whatever year 61 was made) but, well, HOW different? For the small amount of time we see it in the film, I doubt it'd be that big of a deal.
Again, I'm going to say that I think Crystal and his filmmakers did a fantastic job shooting Tiger Stadium to make it look like Yankee Stadium.

One of the big things they did, because Tigers had moved out at that point, had nothing to do with CGI. They painted the seats in the stands green to match what they had looked like at Yankee Stadium in the 60s. I doubt that Steinbrenner would have allowed Crystal to do that with the real Yankee Stadium.

At some point, you have to accept a willing suspension of disbelief. 61* worked for me. I was convinced by Tiger Stadium's recreation of Yankee.
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Old September 27 2009, 12:50 PM   #62
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Re: Everyone leaves L&O:CI?!

Damn, this is a shocker. As much as I LOVE Jeff Goldblum, I have to ask: What's the point of continuing the series (other than to make sure Munch FINALLY appears in an episode)?

As for the other two series, I pretty much have stopped caring about them, although I have enjoyed Stephanie March's return. I'm tired of Stabler and Benson and we don't get enough focus on Fin and Munch. The mothership just doesn't do it for me anymore now that the novelty of Jack McCoy as the D.A. has worn off and realized he's not the maverick he use to be.
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Old September 27 2009, 02:01 PM   #63
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Again, I'm going to say that I think Crystal and his filmmakers did a fantastic job shooting Tiger Stadium to make it look like Yankee Stadium.
Did they at least put in the old Yankee Stadium scoreboard, plus the 4 train and platform, like in the real thing? They didn't just leave in the view beyond the outfield wall as it was in Tiger Stadium, did they?
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Old September 27 2009, 02:21 PM   #64
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I don't know how they recreated the outfield view for the film, but it looked authentic. Right down to the blocky office building beyond the outfield wall.

Crystal, the Yankees fan that he is, didn't stint on recreating the House that Ruth Built.
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Old September 27 2009, 04:49 PM   #65
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I wonder why they didn't just cancel the show and start a new L&O with brand new cast. It would have been a hell of alot easier to do. Better ratings because of people curious about it and cheaper cast.
I agree. Even take Jeff Goldblum and give him his own show, it's only his second year, he is most likely still pretty cheap. But the syndication money is so high they probably will just keep it on the air for it's name. Plus it sounds like the characters will be coming back to be written off, so fans of the show have that to look forward too.

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They need more spin-offs
Law & Order: Vampire Unit - Nick Knight joins the force.
Don't give them any ideas. Vampire Diaries is almost beating most NBC shows so NBC might want L&O: Vampires.

Also the season premiere of L&O 'Vanilla" was pretty good, and even with a Friday Night death slot and no ads it got 6 million viewers.
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Old September 27 2009, 04:51 PM   #66
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I'd like to see Law & Order: Special Sombrero Unit
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Old September 27 2009, 07:03 PM   #67
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Damn, this is a shocker. As much as I LOVE Jeff Goldblum, I have to ask: What's the point of continuing the series (other than to make sure Munch FINALLY appears in an episode)?
You know I was thinking about something: Why don't they move Munch to Criminal Intent and make him one of the leads instead of supporting?
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Old September 27 2009, 07:08 PM   #68
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Again, I'm going to say that I think Crystal and his filmmakers did a fantastic job shooting Tiger Stadium to make it look like Yankee Stadium.
Did they at least put in the old Yankee Stadium scoreboard, plus the 4 train and platform, like in the real thing? They didn't just leave in the view beyond the outfield wall as it was in Tiger Stadium, did they?
Does it really matter to you? Since it wasn't filmed in New York, you're not going to see it.
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Old September 27 2009, 07:44 PM   #69
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The mothership just doesn't do it for me anymore now that the novelty of Jack McCoy as the D.A. has worn off and realized he's not the maverick he use to be.
He just tried to prosecute Dick Cheney and about a dozen other people for torture. He's still "out there."

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You know I was thinking about something: Why don't they move Munch to Criminal Intent and make him one of the leads instead of supporting?
Because Richard Belzer is 65 (shit, he's past mandatory retirement age for most police departments) and doesn't have the time or the energy to have a front-line role on television anymore.

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Old September 27 2009, 07:51 PM   #70
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Isn't CI the one L&O show Munch still hasn't appeared on... if you don't count Conviction.
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Old September 27 2009, 08:15 PM   #71
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Isn't CI the one L&O show Munch still hasn't appeared on... if you don't count Conviction.
Munch hasn't been on either of those two shows.
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Old September 27 2009, 08:33 PM   #72
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I'm done with the L&Os and CSIs this year. All the premieres were boring, dull retreads.
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The mothership just doesn't do it for me anymore now that the novelty of Jack McCoy as the D.A. has worn off and realized he's not the maverick he use to be.
He just tried to prosecute Dick Cheney and about a dozen other people for torture. He's still "out there."
Ah, that's good to know. I have missed most of the past season.

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You know I was thinking about something: Why don't they move Munch to Criminal Intent and make him one of the leads instead of supporting?
Because Richard Belzer is 65 (shit, he's past mandatory retirement age for most police departments) and doesn't have the time or the energy to have a front-line role on television anymore.
Unfortunately true. Too bad because I think Nichols/Munch would be an awesome pair.
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Old September 27 2009, 10:22 PM   #74
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^ Make him the new boss then
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The mothership just doesn't do it for me anymore now that the novelty of Jack McCoy as the D.A. has worn off and realized he's not the maverick he use to be.
He's kind of a pussy now that he's the D.A., although he has his moments. But Michael Cutter is like a young Jack, although a bit more idealistic.

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Damn, this is a shocker. As much as I LOVE Jeff Goldblum, I have to ask: What's the point of continuing the series (other than to make sure Munch FINALLY appears in an episode)?
You know I was thinking about something: Why don't they move Munch to Criminal Intent and make him one of the leads instead of supporting?
Munch & Goldblum would be a very interesting team. No crimes ever get solved because every episode is derailed by their insane rambling.

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Isn't CI the one L&O show Munch still hasn't appeared on... if you don't count Conviction.
Has Criminal Intent ever done any crossovers with any of the Law & Order shows? Did any other established Law & Order characters appear on Conviction besides Cabot?

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Like I said, as long as this theoretical spinoff is *set* in L.A., as well as filmed there, I could give a damn. I just hate it when shows are set in NYC but not shot there. I'm funny that way.
Shows like Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica must really get your panties in a wad, seeing as how they're not shot in space... or even on real spaceships.
Outer-space, Canada, same thing.

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That reminds me of Highlander: The Series, which was also filmed in Vancouver. IIRC, in the first season they tried to make it look like MacLeod lived in Seattle, but after that they never bothered and just had MacLeod in some generic city in the Pacific Northwest (when he wasn't in Paris in the latter half of the season) that was apparently neither Seattle nor Vancouver. Eventually fans started to call the city Seacouver.
That show was just so much better off when they stayed in Paris. Paris is more scenic and has more old buildings that were better at selling the period flashback sequences. And I'd always thought that Vancouver was supposed to be standing in (badly) for New York.

I also have no idea where Tru Calling was supposed to take place. It was shot in Vancouver. The original pilot script included references to some ficticious New York university but those were all changed to something more generic when the show was actually shot. Frankly, Vancouver looks too clean to be New York. If I had to guess, I'd say Boston.

And where the hell does Underworld take place?! The 2nd movie makes it look like it's somewhere in eastern Europe or maybe Russia (although it was shot in Canada). That kinda fits in with the 1st movie being shot in Hungary but then why were the subway signs in English?

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I'm tempted every so often to tune into SVU just to spend some more time watching John Munch, but everytime I've seen it has been so mind-numbingly bland that I haven't seriously entertained the thought much.
Unfortunately, there's almost zero Munch on SVU, particularly in the later seasons. For that matter, I always find myself wishing there was more of him on Homicide.
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