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Old September 15 2009, 12:52 PM   #31
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Re: "Firefly" - when does it get good?

It's a shame some of the cast got really good gigs afterwards and others almost vanished.
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Old September 15 2009, 01:13 PM   #32
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If a shootout is the first thing that interested you, you're watching the wrong show.
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Old September 15 2009, 01:16 PM   #33
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"Heart of Gold" is hit-and-miss with some great moments but some stock cliches too.
It's got a lot of shooting, so maybe he'll like it best.
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Old September 15 2009, 01:23 PM   #34
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But would there be a spin-off? And who would it be about?
Book's hair. They are still out there, you know. Waiting.
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Old September 15 2009, 01:24 PM   #35
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"Heart of Gold" is hit-and-miss with some great moments but some stock cliches too.
It's got a lot of shooting, so maybe he'll like it best.
And whores. Everybody likes whores!


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Old September 15 2009, 02:51 PM   #36
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Hear, hear!

I quite enjoyed the series and film for what it was, however the rampant gushing and seemingly mindless, brainwashed proselytizing of the "Browncoats" almost made me start to dislike it.
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Old September 15 2009, 02:52 PM   #37
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I must have missed all the brainless fanaticism. Are you sure it was on the Trekbbs?
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Old September 15 2009, 04:16 PM   #38
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If a shootout is the first thing that interested you, you're watching the wrong show.
Agreed.


Like Lindley said, I'd love to just watch an ep where nothing happens and the crew all just sit around chatting.
In fact "Out of Gas" is my favourite episode, but I almost wish that explosion didn't happen, and the entire ep was just the crew having dinner for Simon's birthday
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Old September 15 2009, 04:23 PM   #39
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I must have missed all the brainless fanaticism. Are you sure it was on the Trekbbs?
Oh, we did have World War 3 a while back, no doubt, but that was an effort due to both sides of the issue.
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Old September 15 2009, 04:30 PM   #40
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It sounds like fun. I miss all the fun [kicks dust moodily].
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Old September 15 2009, 04:38 PM   #41
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Well the first episode is garbage, but after that we learn a lot of little things about the characters.
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Old September 15 2009, 04:39 PM   #42
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Well to START with, you kind of have to be a big Whedon fan in the first place (which it sounds like the OP probably isn't). You have to like his style of dialogue, the way he writes his characters, etc.

And even then, it still took 3 or 4 episodes for the show to really click with me.
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Old September 15 2009, 04:42 PM   #43
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It sounds like fun. I miss all the fun [kicks dust moodily].
It was pretty bad, but it's also pretty over exaggerated. The fans were being fans, trying to attract people to their show, there were haters, every thread would become about how shit the show is, how it failed etc. then it would become about how nuts the fans are because obviously there would then be a fan backlash against the hating. Then the fans got a bad name because obviously they were always trying to attract new fans or defend the show and hence the "mindless" and "proselytising" barbs you get now.
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Old September 15 2009, 05:59 PM   #44
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OP - Quite honestly, if you're not hooked by the forth episode, then I doubt the shows for you.

I've never seen Buffy, and only a little bit of Angel, so I'm not really a Whedon fan, but I was hooked on Firefly from pretty much the first episode (bought the dvd after having it recomended). I enjoy these sort of atypical plots, quirky characters, and snappy dialogue. I'm a fan of Peter Davids work, and tv shows like NCIS for similar reasons.

About all I can say really.
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Old September 15 2009, 08:41 PM   #45
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Re: "Firefly" - when does it get good?

I love love LOVE the show, but hell, I'll admit that certain eps arent up there with other ones. Shindig, Safe and Bushwhacked are my least favorite episodes of the show, but you'll still find some great characterization in them. Our Mrs Reynolds is hilarious and awesome, as is Jaynestown.

Now, when you get to the third disc from the DVD set, if you dont like any of the episodes on that one, you are not going to like this show at all, and I'm surprised you even liked Serenity to be honest. Out of Gas is fantastic, and Ariel does start to set up the back story (even if said back story doesn't lead in to Serenity with a nice little bow).
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