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Old October 8 2009, 08:52 AM   #46
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Re: The Battlestar Galacticafication of Stargate has began!

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More shows need to be like BSG.
No, they don't.
Agreed.

BSG was great for its first two seasons. Once RD Moore-Ron got wind of his own praise and turned the show into his own indulgent new age pseudo-religious wankfest it all went to shit.

No, BSG is the only recent SF show I ACTUALLY stopped watching out of disgust for how badly it was going.

Never have I seen such potential shat away like last night's cheap curry.


Such a fucking waste.
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Old October 20 2009, 10:12 PM   #47
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Came across this pic this morning, posted at the SyFy BSG boards by a old-school BSG fan;





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Old October 21 2009, 02:51 AM   #48
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I don't get the BSG comparisons. BSG had a great cast of characters and a solid premise. U seems to have neither.
Exactly so. These writers just aren't up to creating an adult-oriented drama, no matter how determined they may be.

This premise is salvagable and could actually be intriguing, if they sack the writing staff and go get people who've actually established themselves as being able to write interesting characters in somewhat unpredictable, messy situations.

It may well be that Stargate has the same franchise problems that Trek eventually did - a conflict between the perceived need for top-down control to maintain a certain brand consistency, and any spontaneity and cleverness in the story telling.

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Say what you will about the Stargate franchise
Fair enough, then: in the last ten years Stargate has become the very definition of so-so, lightweight fantasy storytelling on basic cable. It's generic, forgettable, and goes through one's consciousness like crap through a goose. The Stargate franchise is the Cheez Whiz of televised science fiction.

It should be noted that Cheez Whiz is a very successful product.
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Old October 21 2009, 02:58 AM   #49
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Nobody is going to sack the writing staff, unfortunately. Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper run the writing staff, and the franchise. Somehow the franchise continues to bring money in to MGM, and as long as that continues to happen, Wright and Cooper are answerable to no one.
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Old October 21 2009, 03:00 AM   #50
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Somehow the franchise continues to bring money in to MGM...
Kraft sells a boatload of Cheez Whiz. People (Americans, anyway) like it.
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Old October 21 2009, 03:07 AM   #51
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True, but we know that DVD sales are down (delaying both the announced third Stargate SG-1 DVD movie and the first Stargate Atlantis movie, and limiting the appearance of Stargate Atlantis on Blu-Ray to only a three-episode "Best Of" release) and that the ratings of the franchise are down (We'll see how long these "best ratings of Stargate in five years!" truly last). Those aren't indicators of a product with the longevity or cultural impact of Cheez Whiz.
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Old October 21 2009, 03:07 AM   #52
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People (Americans, anyway) like it.
Not without a tremendous amount of guilt, though. Or so I've heard.
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Old October 21 2009, 03:12 AM   #53
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People (Americans, anyway) like it.
Not without a tremendous amount of guilt, though. Or so I've heard.
Not so much guilt as a little bit of self-conscious self-mockery. It's kind of like "McDonalds" fast food restaurants - we've labeled them the very definition of mediocrity at the same time that we've made them the biggest restaurant franchise in the world.
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Old October 21 2009, 05:50 AM   #54
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Shaky cam, zooming in, no-fun in the episodes so far.. yeah, its NuBSG Part Two.

At least Lt. Titty is nice to look at!
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Old October 21 2009, 08:43 PM   #55
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SG1 was a well done Star Trek ripoff. This is a well done BSG ripoff. If nothing else, it shows the writers have good taste in Sci Fi shows.
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Old October 21 2009, 10:51 PM   #56
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Somehow the franchise continues to bring money in to MGM...
Kraft sells a boatload of Cheez Whiz. People (Americans, anyway) like it.
Based on BSG ratings, it must've been more of an "acquired" taste, like Limburger.
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Old October 22 2009, 05:26 AM   #57
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Well, the more sophistication you ask of an audience the smaller the pool to draw from.
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Old October 22 2009, 09:01 PM   #58
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Re: The Battlestar Galacticafication of Stargate has began!

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Somehow the franchise continues to bring money in to MGM...
Kraft sells a boatload of Cheez Whiz. People (Americans, anyway) like it.
Based on BSG ratings, it must've been more of an "acquired" taste, like Limburger.
I'm thinking more like headcheese.
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Old October 30 2009, 07:15 PM   #59
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[vent]

SG:U is Too dark; Too depressing; Too gritty; Too sexual; Too serious; Too repetitive; Too tense; Too contrived; Too predictable; Badly cast; and Badly written (seriously, you're on a ship that doesn't work but you have 5 Ancient stones...how's about you use them to connect with 5 brilliant scientists that can fix the G-Damn ship instead of a sulking Lou Diamond Phillips in his most depressing role ever?)

I for one liked SG:1 and SG:A because they offered a campy escape from my dark, depressing, repetitive life that I could watch with my children without explaining what young adults might do when faced with mortality.

This show makes me wanna start cutting like the young kids do these days.

I couldn't stomach so much as the commercials for NuBSG, and if this show continues it's present path my DVR will find something else to record.


The only bright spot in the entire show was killing off Christopher McDonald. I think he should guest star on a different TV series every week and be killed off at the end of the episode. It could be a network "meme".


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Old October 30 2009, 10:28 PM   #60
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People (Americans, anyway) like it.
Not without a tremendous amount of guilt, though. Or so I've heard.
I don't eat Cheese Whiz. The reason so much is used is because an authentic Philly Cheesesteak made in Philly uses Cheese Whiz. You might remember during the John Kerry campaign when he went to Philly and had a cheesesteak. He ordered swiss on his-major Faux pas.
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