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Old September 20 2009, 11:17 PM   #31
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Re: The Battlestar Galacticafication of Stargate has began!

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Sorry, but after seeing the trailer for Stargate: Universe just now, that's the vibe I got; Robert Carlyle's character even looks a little bit like Gaius Baltar, and the situtation sounds a lot like that of the Galactica's. Plus, according to the website, three characters will die in the pilot, and the ship will be on the verge of falling apart.

Anybody agree? Or disagree?
Agreed. They even have their own Baltar, "for crying out loud!"
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Old September 20 2009, 11:20 PM   #32
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Anyway, what really set Stargate SG-1 apart from Atlantis and the new upcoming series was that it was based on Earth. I have a feeling that without Earth being in the picture so rarely that it's going to be hard to really "get into it."
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Old September 22 2009, 12:22 PM   #33
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So no visits to the medieval-craft-fair village set in the woods most every week then?
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Old September 22 2009, 01:49 PM   #34
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Re: The Battlestar Galacticafication of Stargate has began!

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I think Tigh mentioned the number of dead in the Resistance webisodes, but it was surely mentioned in the series, too. I just don't remember by who.
I think it comes from an episode where Starbuck is getting pissed by Gaeta's bitching, just before his mutiny. She says something like "50 billion people are dead, but the universe has to cry over Felix Gaeta losing a leg."
Pfft yeah and she was always right, right? If one little bit of Caprica had dozens of resistance fighters then I guess quite a few survived all over the colonies.
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Old September 22 2009, 07:22 PM   #35
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It was mentioned in The Resistance, too, by Tigh. But it seems silly to argue over this, so, whatever.
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Old September 22 2009, 11:59 PM   #36
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Old September 28 2009, 04:11 AM   #37
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Old September 28 2009, 07:18 PM   #38
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That, however, is exactly what nBSG was — dark, hopeless and full of bitching and backstabbers.
BSG was not hopeless. Did you even watch the final episode?
Nor was it totally dark. BSG was notable for contrasting dark with light.
Yes, I watched the final episode. I said as much in the part of my quote that you didn't quote. And, no, I don't consider humanity giving up all of its technology and scattering to the four winds to revert back to barbarism a heartening end to the series. Plus, the robot montage at the very end — 150,000 years after Galactica arrived on our Earth — was somewhat corny.

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Old September 28 2009, 07:22 PM   #39
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More shows need to be like BSG.
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

We should not sacrifice Stargate. We've made too many compromises already. Too many retreats.

Stargate assimilates entire shows and we fall back. They copied Voyager and we fell back. Now they look like they will copy BSG.

Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far! No further!
**LOL** This just inspired me to go out and purchase the Blu-ray version of "Star Trek: First Contact."

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Old September 28 2009, 07:36 PM   #40
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Agreed. I watched nBSG from start to end and, frankly, it's not in human nature to be dark 100 percent of the time.
And the characters of BSG were not. We saw laughing, joking, kidding around, love, sex, friendships. We saw people show bravery in the face of adversity, and hold on to hope. Because characters go through some shitty things (example: your whole civilisation being destroyed) resulting in an ongoing atmosphere of some fear and grief, didn't mean there weren't human or light times on BSG as there would be in reality.
That's true, to a point. I did admire the Adamas, Galen Tyrol and Kat (I think that was her name ... the fighter pilot who died guiding the fleet through the region of space filled with radiation). Tigh, too, to a certain degree.

Never did like Starbuck or most of the others, though. Gaeta was OK until he started losing his mind and rebelled.

That, however, is exactly what nBSG was — dark, hopeless and full of bitching and backstabbers.
No, it wasn't. It might be worth watching it through again. Dark? arguably, yes. It's about the end of the world, what did you expect? But hopeless? No. And with plenty of characters, not least the lead, who were either honourable or tried very hard to be.
Eh. I've watched and read plenty of other material to know that everyone reacts differently to loss. nBSG focused a lot on the darkness and pretty much thrived on it. The ending didn't leave me feeling at all heartened, either.

If "like BSG" means SGU has half the depth of story, range of characters or realism that BSG had, I'm all for it. The likely other option is Voyager blandness as happened to Atlantis after it's first season. I know which I'd rather see happen.
For all of its critical acclaim, nBSG never took off with the mainstream audience. I believe part of it had to do with the dark nature of the show. Another part of it probably had to do with the fact that when it comes to the words "science fiction," people have preconceived notions of it, thus unfairly impacting such SF material right out of the chute.

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Old September 28 2009, 07:40 PM   #41
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And, no, I don't consider humanity giving up all of its technology and scattering to the four winds to revert back to barbarism a heartening end to the series.
That wasn't exactly the point, as I've argued extensively over in the BSG forum.

Plus, the robot montage at the very end — 150,000 years after Galactica arrived on our Earth — was somewhat corny.
I like the coda, but the robot montage wasn't as effective as it could have been. I think it narrows the focus of the end to a point about artificial intelligence, when the message of the series was much wider in focus.
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Old October 3 2009, 07:46 AM   #42
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Say what you will about the Stargate franchise, but as long as they give at least a token explanation when they bring dead characters back to life, the sex scenes aren't between actors older than my grandparents, and the majority of the characters remain the species they were introduced as, Stargate will still be a step above Battlestar Galactica.
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Old October 3 2009, 02:02 PM   #43
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I don't get the BSG comparisons. BSG had a great cast of characters and a solid premise. U seems to have neither.

I haven't finished it yet, though. I paused it to go to the bathroom and forgot that I had been watching it.
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Old October 3 2009, 04:37 PM   #44
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I haven't finished it yet, though. I paused it to go to the bathroom and forgot that I had been watching it.
That sentence made me LOL.
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Old October 8 2009, 02:02 AM   #45
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Say what you will about the Stargate franchise, but as long as they give at least a token explanation when they bring dead characters back to life, the sex scenes aren't between actors older than my grandparents, and the majority of the characters remain the species they were introduced as, Stargate will still be a step above Battlestar Galactica.
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