Carter better choice than Rush

T'Girl · November 25 2009, 07:43 AM

If Samantha Carter was the head scientist on the Destiny instead of Nicholas Rush, by this point in the series don't you feel that the team would possess more control over the ancient ship? Helm/navigation, access to records, command of the FTL, can you really believe it would of taken Sam Carter nine episodes to have these figured out? During Air, Rush was a little bitch, Carter would of been the late girl standing.

And forget Chloe, With Carter and Scott, Amanda Tapping would have brought some serious cougar action to the show. Think of the ratings then.

Xerxus · November 25 2009, 07:52 AM

Carter spent 50+ years in Unending, unable to solve their shield problem. She didn't even think of dismantling the section of the ship that the Ori beam was going to hit.

Carter may be good, but I think people are overstating her abilities. She only works as well as the writer wants.

Wicca who Wonta · November 25 2009, 09:40 AM

Although I don't think Carter would fit the mood of SG-U I do think that she'd outshine Rush is a pinch. So, I voted for Carter.

cultcross · November 25 2009, 11:01 AM

Please no more Sam Carter. Once a promising and engaging character and a firm favourite of mine, now a tired Mary Sue. An expert in everything, ever except he 5 or 6 thing Daniel was expert in. I'd rather have a realistic scientist/intellectual character who actually has limitations, and a field of expertise.

Kpnuts · November 25 2009, 12:02 PM

Xerxus wrote:

Carter spent 50+ years in Unending, unable to solve their shield problem. She didn't even think of dismantling the section of the ship that the Ori beam was going to hit.

That whole episode was a pathetic waste of time, I wouldn't read too much into that garbage.

Jono · November 25 2009, 02:40 PM

Vote Rush purely on the mention of a Carter/Scott pairing. Simply a terrible idea, which is more to do with how much I dislike Scott in what I've seen of the show so far.

Robert Maxwell · November 25 2009, 03:18 PM

Carter always struck me as kinda bland, so no. I'd rather have Rush, all neurotic and weird. At least he's interesting to watch.

iguana_tonante · November 25 2009, 04:24 PM

For a few seconds I didn't see this thread was in the Stargate forum, and I thought you were asking who would be better President, Jimmy Carter or Rush Limbaught! That was a scary thought...

Brent · November 25 2009, 07:40 PM

McKay would have it fixed in one episode

TheMasterOfOrion · November 25 2009, 07:50 PM

Carter is the wrong girl for the show

First there was something unique about Sam Carter because back in the SG1 days she had to fight and fly amongst a group of tough men, she was a great fighter and had a huge egghead. The portrayal of the military was more positive and upbeat in SG1. She had a superhead, had such a big brain she started becoming deus ex machina like Geordi or O'Brien. Young heard it himself when Jack O'Neill said she saved his butt with all kinds of wacky science every second episode. If you jam Carter into a show like this it won't work, they tried stunt casting with Atlantis and it went flat. Also she would not suit the tone of the show, the leaders are nervous and out of their depth, the tough guys are mentally breaking down or going psycotic, and their is something very basic and grim about the tone and about their situation. Also there are lots of girls on the show, if you throw her in for the sex appeal factor she is gonna be a fifth wheel.

I like what they had done with Rush so far, no need to change him

USS Kongo · November 25 2009, 09:21 PM

I love the Carter character to bits, and still do, but she would be a bad fit on SG:U. Rush is perfect.

Sean

Danny99 · November 26 2009, 06:11 AM

cultcross wrote:

Please no more Sam Carter. Once a promising and engaging character and a firm favourite of mine, now a tired Mary Sue. An expert in everything, ever except he 5 or 6 thing Daniel was expert in. I'd rather have a realistic scientist/intellectual character who actually has limitations, and a field of expertise.

She was never a great character and I never understood the praise she got.

Amanda Tapping is even worse in her new show with the fake British accent.

sidious618 · November 26 2009, 06:24 AM

I love Rush. No way would I want Carter instead. She was boring.

DWF · November 26 2009, 12:45 PM

canadaboy_32 wrote:

Amanda Tapping is even worse in her new show with the fake British accent.

Amanda Tapping was born in Britain so I don't think her accent as a fake as you think.

DarKush · November 26 2009, 12:57 PM

I think the point is not to figure out the Ancient tech so easily. I liked Carter on SG-1, but I thought she was a poor fit even for SG:A and would really not work on SGU. Universe has a different feel and tone and the shifty Rush works better on it. You're not supposed to trust him necessarily, but how could the characters and the audience not trust Carter? She's too squeaky clean. Plus, there would be no rivalry/conflict with Eli, and perhaps no bad blood with Col. Young, unless it was shifted solely to them, keeping Carter clean. I like the two-way street relationships we have with Rush and everyone else.

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Samantha Carter	12	25.53%
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November 25 2009, 07:43 AM	#1
T'Girl Vice Admiral	Carter better choice than Rush If Samantha Carter was the head scientist on the Destiny instead of Nicholas Rush, by this point in the series don't you feel that the team would possess more control over the ancient ship? Helm/navigation, access to records, command of the FTL, can you really believe it would of taken Sam Carter nine episodes to have these figured out? During Air, Rush was a little bitch, Carter would of been the late girl standing. And forget Chloe, With Carter and Scott, Amanda Tapping would have brought some serious cougar action to the show. Think of the ratings then.

November 25 2009, 07:52 AM	#2
Xerxus Lieutenant Commander	Re: Carter better choice than Rush Carter spent 50+ years in Unending, unable to solve their shield problem. She didn't even think of dismantling the section of the ship that the Ori beam was going to hit. Carter may be good, but I think people are overstating her abilities. She only works as well as the writer wants.

November 25 2009, 09:40 AM	#3
Wicca who Wonta Vice Admiral Location: Sweden	Re: Carter better choice than Rush Although I don't think Carter would fit the mood of SG-U I do think that she'd outshine Rush is a pinch. So, I voted for Carter.

November 25 2009, 11:01 AM	#4
cultcross Runner Location: United Kingdom	Re: Carter better choice than Rush Please no more Sam Carter. Once a promising and engaging character and a firm favourite of mine, now a tired Mary Sue. An expert in everything, ever except he 5 or 6 thing Daniel was expert in. I'd rather have a realistic scientist/intellectual character who actually has limitations, and a field of expertise. __________________ This post terminates here. Please do not attempt to board.

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November 25 2009, 02:40 PM	#6
Jono Rear Admiral Location: Australia	Re: Carter better choice than Rush Vote Rush purely on the mention of a Carter/Scott pairing. Simply a terrible idea, which is more to do with how much I dislike Scott in what I've seen of the show so far. __________________ Those who lose dreaming are lost.

November 25 2009, 03:18 PM	#7
Robert Maxwell Cherry Chassis Location: The Track	Re: Carter better choice than Rush Carter always struck me as kinda bland, so no. I'd rather have Rush, all neurotic and weird. At least he's interesting to watch. __________________ Your crash was, like, spectacular! My world simulation project! Also: Women and Men: Self-Image and Rape Culture

November 25 2009, 04:24 PM	#8
iguana_tonante Vice Admiral Location: Italy, EU	Re: Carter better choice than Rush For a few seconds I didn't see this thread was in the Stargate forum, and I thought you were asking who would be better President, Jimmy Carter or Rush Limbaught! That was a scary thought... __________________ Scientist. Gentleman. Teacher. Fighter. Lover. Father.

November 25 2009, 07:40 PM	#9
Brent Admiral Location: TARDIS	Re: Carter better choice than Rush McKay would have it fixed in one episode __________________ "Would you mind not standing on my chest? My hat's on fire." - The Doctor My Let's Play Series of STO - http://www.youtube.com/user/JustGaming4Us

November 25 2009, 07:50 PM	#10
TheMasterOfOrion Fleet Captain	Re: Carter better choice than Rush Carter is the wrong girl for the show First there was something unique about Sam Carter because back in the SG1 days she had to fight and fly amongst a group of tough men, she was a great fighter and had a huge egghead. The portrayal of the military was more positive and upbeat in SG1. She had a superhead, had such a big brain she started becoming deus ex machina like Geordi or O'Brien. Young heard it himself when Jack O'Neill said she saved his butt with all kinds of wacky science every second episode. If you jam Carter into a show like this it won't work, they tried stunt casting with Atlantis and it went flat. Also she would not suit the tone of the show, the leaders are nervous and out of their depth, the tough guys are mentally breaking down or going psycotic, and their is something very basic and grim about the tone and about their situation. Also there are lots of girls on the show, if you throw her in for the sex appeal factor she is gonna be a fifth wheel. I like what they had done with Rush so far, no need to change him

November 25 2009, 09:21 PM	#11
USS Kongo Fleet Captain	Re: Carter better choice than Rush I love the Carter character to bits, and still do, but she would be a bad fit on SG:U. Rush is perfect. Sean __________________ MY DVD Review Site Like Ghost Stories? Read My Book!

November 26 2009, 06:24 AM	#13
sidious618 Admiral Location: New York, US	Re: Carter better choice than Rush I love Rush. No way would I want Carter instead. She was boring. __________________ We've met before, haven't we?

November 26 2009, 12:57 PM	#15
DarKush Rear Admiral	Re: Carter better choice than Rush I think the point is not to figure out the Ancient tech so easily. I liked Carter on SG-1, but I thought she was a poor fit even for SG:A and would really not work on SGU. Universe has a different feel and tone and the shifty Rush works better on it. You're not supposed to trust him necessarily, but how could the characters and the audience not trust Carter? She's too squeaky clean. Plus, there would be no rivalry/conflict with Eli, and perhaps no bad blood with Col. Young, unless it was shifted solely to them, keeping Carter clean. I like the two-way street relationships we have with Rush and everyone else.