Mr. Spock instead of Sir or Commander

[number6]

Commander Sonak.

[Yeoman Randi]

Well then, there goes my theory of Vulcans being addressed by Mr.

[JustKate]

Wasn't Scotty almost always referred to as "Mr. Scott" as well? I can't remember many times when he was referred to by rank.

[Yeoman Randi]

Kate, yes, you're right!

[JustKate]

In fact...weren't a lot of the male regulars referred to this way? Mr. Sulu, Mr. Chekov...pretty much everybody but the captain and McCoy. They weren't called "Mr." as regularly as Spock and Scotty were, but they were called that a lot, weren't they?

The reason I remember is that I used to wonder why he never referred to females as Miss or whatever. I always kind of assumed it was because TPTB didn't want to fuss about whether they were married or not - Ms. was neither well-known nor accepted in those days.

Hey - maybe this answers the question in that thread about female yeomen? It gives the captain a little variety in his dialog?

[Green Shirt]

Yeoman Randi wrote:

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Does anyone remember how other Vulcans were addressed in TOS or other series?

Not 100% sure, but T'Pring was probably forever known as "Bitch" following the events of Amok Time. Stonn was stuck with the unfortunate handle of "Dooey".

[Hambone]

Just don't call him Doctor Spock.

[J.T.B.]

There are a few instance where "Miss Uhura" is used, and IIRC it's always from Spock. One is in "The Man Trap," when Spock tells her she made an error in the frequency column and they get into the thing about Vulcan's moon. I can't remember the rest, but I know there are a couple in S1.

--Justin

[Green Shirt]

J.T.B. wrote:

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There are a few instance where "Miss Uhura" is used, and IIRC it's always from Spock. One is in "The Man Trap," when Spock tells her she made an error in the frequency column and they get into the thing about Vulcan's moon. I can't remember the rest, but I know there are a couple in S1.

--Justin

Didn't Roger Korby's Kirk android refer to Christine as "Miss Chapel"? Couldn't tell for sure whether he said "Miss", or "Nurse".

[J.T.B.]

Green Shirt wrote:

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Didn't Roger Korby's Kirk android refer to Christine as "Miss Chapel"? Couldn't tell for sure whether he said "Miss", or "Nurse".

I'm pretty sure you're right. "Androids don't eat, Miss Chapel."

--Justin

[JustKate]

Was Chapel's rank ever identified? I can't remember. I don't remember the "Miss" reference, though I don't doubt that there is one - it seems to me that she was almost always referred to as "Nurse,' but surely she had a rank. Right?

[J.T.B.]

^I don't think it was ever identified, either. She had no sleeve stripes, and nurse is traditionally a commissioned officer job, so I'd say the best bet is she was an ensign. But with the TOS uniforms, you never know.

--Justin

[Admiral_Young]

Chapel's rank wasn't identified during the original series but in Star Trek The Motion Picture Dr. Chapel has Lieutenants bars on her shoulders I believe. Scott is indeed normally referred to as Mr. Scott or Scotty by the crew never by Commander Scott. I think Admiral Morrow in Star Trek III calls Scotty Commander Scott when he assigns him as "Captain" of engineering for the USS Excelsior.

I don't mind the rest of the crew calling each other Mr. instead of their ranks or Captain Kirk doing it (after all he is the Captain) just Spock since he's the second in command.

[Green Shirt]

J.T.B. wrote:

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I'm pretty sure you're right. "Androids don't eat, Miss Chapel."

--Justin

I've always had a little trouble understanding Shatner at times. On more than one occasion I heard him say "Miss Spock".

[Chaos Descending]

J.T.B. wrote:

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US Navy practice until the early 1970's was for commanders and above to be addressed with their rank, lieutenant commanders and below (down to WO-1) to be addressed as "Mister (last name)," or mrs. or miss, or as "doctor" or "nurse" or "chaplain," "father" &c. as appropriate. As we know, Spock was considered a LCdr when the series began, despite his rank stripes, so "Mr. Spock" would be OK by USN tradition.

--Justin

Until the early 70's nothing. It's still common practice now.

Timo wrote:

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Hmm... addressed by whom? Everybody, or fellow officers, or superior officers?

Timo Saloniemi

Generally anyone that is in a usual working relationship with said officer. Some scrub E-2 from another Department would probably call him "Sir" or "Lieutenant Jones", the same E-2 in his own Division would probably call him "Mister Jones".

J.T.B. wrote:

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Everybody officially, though juniors could use "sir" instead. I'll look up the full rules later today.

--Justin

IIRC, it's not in the rules, it's more Naval tradition.