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Old August 21 2009, 01:22 AM   #1
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Dexter season 3 (spoilers)

Starting a thread for any people with Netflix but not HBO.
Three big improvements over second season.

First, having Jimmy Smits instead of that girl who played Lila was way smarter. No insult to her personally. Smits was even better than Hall.

Second, giving Debra more of a storyline about work instead of just sex gave the character much more life. Worries about Quinn, Yuki. The affair with Anton was a little dreary but tying it into her ambition for a shield helped even that. Having Debra find out something about Harry makes her an actual member of the family.

Third, they didn't repeat personal jeopardy for loved ones as the motivation for the third break with Someone-Who-Would Accept-and-Love-the-REAL-Dexter. Making the choice because it violates his moral code, such as that is, represents an advance for Dexter.

But there are also downward steps due to serialization instead of resolution. Though Smits and cutting out rinkydink personal jeopardy improved the Dexter's Big Choice storyline, it is still the third time.

Further, turning Harry from a memory into a peculiar blend of wish fulfillment Harry/disguised moral self/textbook Freudian superego is stretches patience.

The increasing adventures of Supercriminal are stretching credulity. The superficial realism is wearing thin. A prudent length would have prevented this. Debra getting a clue about Harry should have started last season at the latest.

Starting storylines about Angel and Masuka is good, but simpering over the characters because the writers are fond of them isn't. Angel's a true hero and doesn't need fantasy hot cop to keep on trucking. A girl friend for Masuka, well, just writing about it is wrong.

LaGuerta's overall story arc is progressing nicely in one sense, but shoehorning her into a personal relationship with Smits just didn't work too well. It was to brutal a retcon, where her friendship with Doakes was all too obviously the most important emotional relationship she'd had. It's not like Smits came back into town. He'd been there all along and there wasn't any such intensity there for two seasons and we knew it.

Incidentally, the groundwork for La Guerta to find out about Dexter, as in the first Dexter novel, seems to be laid. She's being written as more competent, albeit still highly political.

Easy as Pie is without a doubt the most affecting episode. Dexter is always clever but there was true emotion wrung from the sensationalist premise, for once. Usually, it is the workplace/family comedy that gives Dexter its emotional appeal. Probably it helps to use an experienced character actress. Two actors in a scene always work better than one.

Last drawback, too little Rita. The first husband retcon doesn't look promising.

While getting a little long in the tooth, it still has its moments. Easy as Pie should have been Emmy nominated, I think.
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Old August 21 2009, 01:33 AM   #2
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Yay! Keep this thread going till I've managed to get thru my DVDs! I'm goin' to Barnes & Noble to buy my set tomorrow (Amazon's too slow!!!) and it should take me 24 to 48 hours to watch the whole thing.

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Old August 21 2009, 03:02 AM   #3
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Re: Dexter season 3 (spoilers)

Excellent! I just got my DVD set in the mail yesterday from DDD.

I'll be looking for this thread as a make my way through them!
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Old August 21 2009, 08:11 AM   #4
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Second, giving Debra more of a storyline about work instead of just sex gave the character much more life. Worries about Quinn, Yuki. The affair with Anton was a little dreary but tying it into her ambition for a shield helped even that. Having Debra find out something about Harry makes her an actual member of the family.
I'm with you 100% here.


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Last drawback, too little Rita. The first husband retcon doesn't look promising.
It's been a long time since I saw this, but I agree with you about the retcon.

But too little Rita? This is where we part ways.


For my part, there was a lot that I really liked in the 3rd season, but I don't think that any of the highs were as good as the highs in seasons 1 and 2. And I was so disappointed with the conclusion of the skinner arc that I easily peg this season as my least favorite.
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Old August 22 2009, 12:38 AM   #5
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Yay! Keep this thread going till I've managed to get thru my DVDs! I'm goin' to Barnes & Noble to buy my set tomorrow (Amazon's too slow!!!) and it should take me 24 to 48 hours to watch the whole thing.

See ya soon...
Seconded. I just bought the DVDs at Best Buy, and will be tearing through them as soon as I can.
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Old August 22 2009, 01:03 AM   #6
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Re: Dexter season 3 (spoilers)

LOVED Season 1 -- I tried to stay away from spoilers, and it worked.

Season 2 = I was on the edge of my fucking seat. Each episode left me wondering: "How the fuck he was going to get away with it?!", and it left me plowing threw the episodes quickly.

Season 3 was lagging and just a little boring when watching it, but about half-way through it started to pick up, and when Dexter figured out what Miguel had done ... it suddenly started getting real good.


I can't wait for Season 4.
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Old August 22 2009, 04:40 AM   #7
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Re: Dexter season 3 (spoilers)

The S4 premiere has been leaked online... not that I would watch it or anything...
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Old August 22 2009, 05:30 PM   #8
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I couldn't help it ... I had to watch the leak.


Thoughts -- not much here in the way of spoilers, but will still wrap it in code:

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Old August 22 2009, 05:49 PM   #9
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Season 3 was lagging and just a little boring when watching it, but about half-way through it started to pick up, and when Dexter figured out what Miguel had done ... it suddenly started getting real good.


I can't wait for Season 4.
Same here. Season 3 is more low-key--at first--than the other previous seasons, as it has Dexter on the defensive and dealing with his internal conflicts, just as before---but when Dexter goes on the attack---THAT'S when things go from interesting to RIVETING.

Smits' character made a good rival for Dexter, because he was so much like him. It's been hard for us to see the other characters as a threat to Dexter, since we, the audience, already know just how GOOD Dexter is at what he does.

I can not wait for the next season to start.
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Old August 22 2009, 07:14 PM   #10
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I couldn't help it ... I had to watch the leak.


Thoughts -- not much here in the way of spoilers, but will still wrap it in code:

You know what I hated about it? I have to wait a month to see more now...
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Old August 22 2009, 10:00 PM   #11
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Jimmy Smits deserves an Emmy, he was simply amazing in that season Infact after seeing him on the West Wing this dude is a great great actor.
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Old August 22 2009, 10:41 PM   #12
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Season 4 is going to be fantastic if they can keep up the level of writing of the first episode. w00t?!
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Old August 24 2009, 01:26 AM   #13
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For my part, there was a lot that I really liked in the 3rd season, but I don't think that any of the highs were as good as the highs in seasons 1 and 2. And I was so disappointed with the conclusion of the skinner arc that I easily peg this season as my least favorite.
The skinner arc was pretty crappy on screen from the moment Anton interesected it. Dexter gets up from a the table, kills him, then easily escapes through a window, as if cops won't be trying to see if anyone escapes through a window? Oh yes, the finish is feeble. Something that lame wouldn't gone down in the first instalment. All those convolutions just wear the writers down and they lose their judgment.

Miguel is exactly like what Dexter thought of himself, an empty shell that is just faking it. The parallel between Miguel stealing Ramon's story and Dexter stealing the crazy stalker girlfriend's lines shows the writers know this too, I think. Dexter killing Miguel is a lot like killing himself.
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Old August 24 2009, 06:35 AM   #14
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It was a big improvement over the second season though I thought stringing out yet another Debra relationship plot was too much. Do they really have so little to do with the character we keep needing to get this every damn season?

I liked the Angel/Giana subplot if for no other reason than it broke with the boring-as-dirt boy gets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back cliche that pops up on almost every drama.

I don't think they ever explained

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Old August 25 2009, 01:32 AM   #15
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Starting a thread for any people with Netflix but not HBO.
Having HBO wouldn't really matter seeing as how it's on Showtime...
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