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Old May 16 2010, 01:09 AM   #1
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What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved ones?

I'm thinking that i mostly want to watch TNG episodes but perhaps some from other series as well
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Old May 16 2010, 02:17 AM   #2
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

Ben Sisko in "Emissary' DS9's pilot episode.

He had to overcome his grief over the loss of his wife at Wolf 359.
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Old May 16 2010, 03:35 PM   #3
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

The movie GENERATIONS has Picard grieving over the recent deaths of his brother and nephew.

And Kirk is still mourning his son's death in THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY . . . .
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Old May 16 2010, 05:08 PM   #4
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Let us also not forget DS9's 'The Visitor', although technically Ben Sisko hadn't 'died' but was trapped in 'the nexus', or a similar dimension, which was all the more painful for his son, hence why he threw away his life and career trying to rescue him.
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Old May 16 2010, 06:44 PM   #5
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Reunion. K'Ehleyr was murdered by Duras. Worf beamed over to the Klingon ship and killed him.
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Old May 17 2010, 03:57 AM   #6
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

Ties of Blood and Water. Kira mourns the deaths of her father and Tekeny Ghemor.
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Old May 17 2010, 11:39 PM   #7
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

There's "Interface" with Geordi refusing to accept his mother's death. Not quite an example of a great episode, but relevant to this thread.

Minor Spoilers (If, for some inconceivable reason you haven't seen these ancient episodes yet, despite being TNG fans for this long )

The two TNG episodes that I think deal with death most powerfully and satisfyingly (from a storyline/acting standpoint) are "The Offspring" and "Lower Decks". They aren't really about death until their endings, but once the deaths do happen, they are devastatingly moving and lovely depictions of how death affects friends and family of the deceased. These are two of the only episodes of TNG that make me teary (along with "Darmok", "The Inner Light", and "All Good Things...").
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Old May 17 2010, 11:41 PM   #8
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TNG's The Bonding comes to mind. And hell, even though it is a movie, The Search for Spock is basically the TOS gang mourning Spock's death.
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Old May 18 2010, 01:08 PM   #9
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

Too Much Fun wrote: View Post
The two TNG episodes that I think deal with death most powerfully and satisfyingly (from a storyline/acting standpoint) are "The Offspring" and "Lower Decks". They aren't really about death until their endings, but once the deaths do happen, they are devastatingly moving and lovely depictions of how death affects friends and family of the deceased.
VOY's Real Life is also like this.
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Old May 18 2010, 01:21 PM   #10
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The Visitor did it best I think. Although alegorical it was about a child's inability to overcome the loss of a parent and how that affected their entire life and particularly about how it isn't really about the lost one - it really is all about those left behind (Sisko is fine with his lot in life - he's affected by the way his loss has affected his child). A very powerful story.
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Old May 18 2010, 01:53 PM   #11
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

RegFan wrote: View Post
Too Much Fun wrote: View Post
The two TNG episodes that I think deal with death most powerfully and satisfyingly (from a storyline/acting standpoint) are "The Offspring" and "Lower Decks". They aren't really about death until their endings, but once the deaths do happen, they are devastatingly moving and lovely depictions of how death affects friends and family of the deceased.


VOY's Real Life is also like this.
Too much fun's suggestions are excellent. Those are amazing episodes.

OMG. That episode (Real Life) rips your heart out.
One of Voyager's finest in my opinion.
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Old May 18 2010, 07:20 PM   #12
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

Yeoman Randi wrote: View Post
RegFan wrote: View Post
Too Much Fun wrote: View Post
The two TNG episodes that I think deal with death most powerfully and satisfyingly (from a storyline/acting standpoint) are "The Offspring" and "Lower Decks". They aren't really about death until their endings, but once the deaths do happen, they are devastatingly moving and lovely depictions of how death affects friends and family of the deceased.


VOY's Real Life is also like this.
Too much fun's suggestions are excellent. Those are amazing episodes.

OMG. That episode (Real Life) rips your heart out.
One of Voyager's finest in my opinion.

STNG The Bonding, STNG Hero Worship also

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Old May 19 2010, 06:25 AM   #13
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

TNG Lower Decks.

When Picard mmakes the announcement at the end, I get goosebumps.
Also The Inner Light
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Old May 20 2010, 05:05 AM   #14
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Re: What star trek episodes deal with grieving over deaths of loved on

"The Bonding" from TNG deals directly with the issue of death and grief from several viewpoints. Worf feels regret and guilt for a crew member's loss under his command. Her son is unable to grieve because of the alien's interference, regardless of good intentions. Wesley explains his grief over his father's death and tells Picard how he feels about it.
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Old May 21 2010, 02:56 AM   #15
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I think TNG's The Child and VOY's Before And After qualify. Though Deanna's 'son' didn't technically die, he did in a fashion to her eyes, and she certainly had to accept and mourn a loss. And though Before And After was AU, the bits with Tom trying to come to terms with Kes' aging and the Krenim losses (B'Elanna included) made it emotionally for me.
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