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Old February 3 2010, 12:34 AM   #166
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old February 3 2010, 01:03 AM   #167
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^ Thanks for the warning. I think I'm going to not read them since we're so close. I send spoilers out to a few friends and coworkers. This year most have said they don't read them and will wait for the show. Last year they gobbled them up. Maybe because it's the final season?
There's also been less spoilers than ever before. There are literally things that nobody had mentioned until the premiere aired in Hawaii... that's a first.
And the spoilers that are out there are way too out of context to make sense.
Which is why I love Lost Spoilers, I have never been spoilered of anything because they make no sense.
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Old February 3 2010, 01:25 AM   #168
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Old February 3 2010, 01:57 AM   #169
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Old February 3 2010, 02:28 AM   #170
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^ Thanks for the warning. I think I'm going to not read them since we're so close. I send spoilers out to a few friends and coworkers. This year most have said they don't read them and will wait for the show. Last year they gobbled them up. Maybe because it's the final season?
There's also been less spoilers than ever before. There are literally things that nobody had mentioned until the premiere aired in Hawaii... that's a first.
And the spoilers that are out there are way too out of context to make sense.
So pretty much like the show?

Radio show host was having people call in and relate their story of what made them stop watching or those that still are what keeps them watching. It was pretty funny even though he thinks LOST was nothing more than a big ponsey scheme. Which I'm actually okay with.
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Old February 3 2010, 05:25 AM   #171
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So... how did they keep the Temple under wraps? Did not see that coming.
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Old February 3 2010, 07:51 AM   #172
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Kristen already has a new scoop for us.

Next Week Will Blow You Away: After you see the final 10 minutes of next week's episode, it will become increasingly clear what the entire final season of Lost is leading up to. (I smell a war coming on!)

Get Ready for Two Surprising Reappearances: (1) A certain someone you thought was dead will be back, and how he or she returns, and what it means for the future of the other Losties on the island, will have your brain spinning. (2) Someone else appears in Los Angeles next week that I did not know was returning at all, and it's awesome.

There Will Be Some Shipper Moments Next Week: Kate will have a tender moment with Jack, and she'll also have a revealing moment with Sawyer, and there will definitely be some clear indication as to where the romantic storylines (or lack thereof) will be heading this season.

Richard Alpert Was a Slave?! The SMIB mentioned that Richard was in chains. There has long been talk that crew of the Black Rock (allegedly a mining vessel) were slaves, and when we've visited the ship in the past, skeletons were found shackled together. So was Alpert on the Black Rock? The good news is we will find out. Nestor Carbonell tells me: "You're going to get all your answers: Why doesn't he age? Where's he from? What his powers might be? Who he is? And there is one specific episode that deals with all of that. I was blown away by what they wrote." Can. Not. Wait.

Claire and Sayid Will Have Something in Common. Something big.

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Damon and Carlton were on Kimmel last night and they heavily hinted that Locke was NOT inhabited by the man in black.
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Old February 3 2010, 06:39 PM   #174
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I didn't think he was inhabited by the MIB but that the MIB took the form of Locke.

Can MIB/Smokey split? Can he be Christian and Claire at the same time? Or is he neither...?
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Old February 3 2010, 09:01 PM   #175
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So... how did they keep the Temple under wraps? Did not see that coming.
if by 'they' you mean the creators of LOST, they didn't. "The Temple" was revealed as a huge set piece for this season some time last year.

If by 'they' you mean 'the others', I have no idea...unless it is in the 'Dark Territory' patrolled by the smoke monster, which would of course keep people away.
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Old February 3 2010, 09:55 PM   #176
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So, nuJohnLocke = guy in black on the beach = Jacob's nemesis = black cloud. All one in the same...

Hmmm...interesting.

There was also the wall carving of Anubis, god of the underworld (death) facing the smoke monster next to a symbol of the inverted ankh in the temple passages from last season. Perhaps Smokey is either the instrument of Anubis or Anubis incarnate.

Then we have the statue of Taweret, the Egyptian goddess of childbirth and fertility (holding the Ankh, and the obvious ties to childbirth, rebirth and healing powers of the island), possibly represented by Jacob, despite the gender difference. He definitely seems less aggressive than his counterpart on the island, but both clearly ancient. I'm curious how Richard ties in with all this. He's pretty old too but doesn't seem to be as powerful. He likely represents the balance between the two entities, but unclear as to deeper purpose.

Definitely seems to be some yin/yang stuff going on here, as Anubis' mission seems to be diametrically opposed to Taweret's mission. Jacob's death likely throws off this balance, although it isn't clear in which direction. His death might have made him more powerful and free to influence the mortals of the island, Obi-wan style, unbeknown to black-shirt guy, who probably believes he's "won" via the "loophole". I like where this is going.
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Old February 3 2010, 10:57 PM   #177
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New spoilers.
Hurley speaks to someone very close to Richard's past and conveys this person's message to Richard. Definite tearjerker on par with when we first meet Bernand and he finds out Rose is okay in season 2.

- Man in Black has a true nemesis - and it's not Jacob.

-"Happily Ever After" marks Desmond's full return - his centric episode as well. His "flash-sideways" feature Charlie, Daniel, Penny, Mommy, Jack, Widmore, and Claire. Widmore and Desmond share some of that famous scotch. Des has to make a very, very big sacrifice.

- "Everybody Loves Hugo" marks the return of Libby and Michael. Michael is a ghost on island and Libby and Hurley date in his "flash-sideways." Locke gets run over. Man can't catch a break, can he?
Lindelof and Cuse discuss the ramifications for the future of the show following the events of the premiere.
EW: The whole idea of flash-sideways and the plan to use season 6 to show us a world where Oceanic 815 never crashed — how long has that been in the works? Why did you want to do it?
DAMON LINDELOF: It’s been in play for at least a couple of years. We knew that the ending of the time travel season was going to be an attempt to reboot. And as a result, we [knew] the audience was going to come out of the “do-over moment” thinking we were either going start over or just say it didn’t work and continue on. [We thought] wouldn’t it be great if we did both? That was the origin of the story.
CARLTON CUSE: We thought just doing one [of those options] would inherently not be satisfying. Since the very beginning of the show, characters started crossing through each other’s stories. Part of our desire [in season 6] is to show that there’s still this kind of weave, that these characters still would have impacted each other’s lives even without the event of crashing on the Island. Obviously, the big question of the season is going to be: How do these [two timelines] reconcile? However, for the fans who have not watched the show closely, that’s an intact narrative. You can just watch the flash sideways — they stand alone all by themselves. For the fans who are more deeply embedded in the show, you can watch those flash sideways, compare them to what transpired in the flashbacks and go, “Oh, that’s an interesting difference.”
LINDELOF: Right out of the gate, in the first five minutes of the premiere, you get hit over the head with two things that you’re not expecting. The first is that Desmond is on the plane. The second thing that we do is we drop out of the plane and we go below the water and we see that the Island is submerged. What we’re trying to do there is basically say to you, “God bless the survivors of Oceanic 815, because they’re so self-centered, they thought the only effect [of detonating the bomb] was going to be that their plane never crashes.” But they don’t stop to think, “If we do this in 1977, what else is going to affected by this?” So that their entire lives can be changed radically. In fact, it would appear that they’ve sunken the Island. That’s our way of saying, “Keep your eyes peeled for the differences that you’re not expecting.” Some of these characters were still in Australia, but some weren’t. Shannon’s not there. Boone actually says that he tried to get her back. There are all sorts of other people that we don’t see. Where’s Libby? Where’s Ana Lucia? Where’s Eko? These are all the things that you’re supposed to be thinking about. When our characters posited the “What if?” scenario, they neglected to think about what the other effects of potentially changing time might be and we’re embracing those things.

That said, are you saying definitively that detonating Jughead was the event that created this new timeline? Or is that a mystery which the season 6 story will reveal?

LINDELOF: It’s a mystery. A big one.
CUSE: We did have some concern that it might be confusing kind of going into the season. To clear that up a little bit: The archetypes of the characters are the same and that’s the most significant thing. Kate is still a fugitive. If you were to look at the Comic-Con video, for instance, that now comes into play. There was a different scenario in that story. She basically blew up an apprentice plumber as opposed to killing her biological father/stepfather. Those kind of differences exist, but who the characters fundamentally are is the same. If it becomes too confusing for you, you can just follow the flash sideways for what they are. It’s not as though there’s narrative that hangs on the fact that you need to know that this event was different in that world, in the flashback world versus the sideways world. That’s not critical for being able to process the narrative this season.

Is there a relationship between Island reality and sideways reality? Will they run parallel for the remainder of the season? Will they fuse together? Might one fade away?

LINDELOF: For us, the big risk that we’re taking in the final season of the show is basically this very question. [Lindelof then explains the show has replaced the trademark “whoosh!” sound effect marking the segue between Island present story and flashbacks or flash-forwards, thus calling conspicuous attention to the relationship between the Island world and the Sideways world.] This is the critical mystery of the season, which is, “What is the relationship between these two shows?” And we don’t use the phrase “alternate reality,” because to call one of them an “alternate reality” is to infer that one of them isn’t real, or one of them is real and the other is the alternate to being real.
CUSE: But the questions you’re asking are exactly the right questions. What are we to make of the fact that they’re showing us two different timelines? Are they going to resolve? Are they going to connect? Are they going to co-exist in parallel fashion? Are they going to cross? Do they intersect? Does one prove to be viable and the other one not? I think those are all the kind of speculations that are the right speculations to be having at this point in the season.

LINDELOF: But it is going to require patience. We’ve taught the audience how to be patient thus far, so while they’re getting a lot of mythological answers on the island early in the season, this idea of what is the relationship between the two [worlds] is a little bit more of a slow burn.

Did Jughead really sink the Island? And is it possible that the Sideways characters are now caught in a time loop in which they might have to go back in time and fulfill the obligation to continuity by detonating the bomb?

LINDELOF: These questions will be dealt with on the show. Should you infer that the detonation of Jughead is what sunk the island? Who knows? But there’s the Foot. What do you get when you see that shot? It looks like New Otherton got built. These little clues [might help you] extrapolate when the Island may have sunk. Start to think about it. A couple of episodes down the road, some of the characters might even discuss it. We will say this: season 6 is not about time travel. It’s about the implications, the aftermath, and the causality of trying to change the past. But the idea of continuing to do paradoxical storytelling is not what we’re interested in this year.
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Old February 4 2010, 07:50 PM   #178
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Sneak Peek at 'What Kate Does'.

The title of the page says 'sneak peek 2', but I couldn't find 'sneak peek 1', maybe that was for the premiere.
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Sneak Peak at "What Kate Does, for real this time"

It's the first sneak peak Flukie alluded to.
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