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Old August 15 2009, 05:06 AM   #1
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Whale Wars

I don't know if anyone is watching this show, but I'd highly recommend it. It's a documentary by Animal Planet that follows an organization called the Sea Shepherds who try and stop the Japanese from whaling inside the Australian whale sanctuary in the Antarctic.

It's honestly compelling drama, even though much doesn't happen in each episode (there's an early episode where they just spend most of the time not trying to get crushed by ice in the Antarctic. Things have picked up the last couple of episodes, though.

If you aren't dead set against whaling or even if you didn't know that whaling still went on and is such a major concern, I'd definitely recommend watching the latest episode (it just aired, but they'll reair it a lot and it's available on demand if you have comcast). I should warn you ahead of time that it's flat out disturbing. The whalers chase, harpoon, kill, and cut up whales in front of the camera and there's not much that could be done to stop it. The season finale is next week. I guess I could find out what they did, but I think it's more compelling to watch the footage of their actions. If you haven't seen this show before, I'd definitely recommend you watch next week.
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Old August 15 2009, 06:48 AM   #2
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Re: Whale Wars

I checked it out tonight because of another thread elsewhere, and I mist say that the sea shepards are pretty much just Eco-terrorists
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Old August 15 2009, 07:37 AM   #3
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I guess that brings up the question what exactly is an eco-terrorist and what is wrong with that? I think saboteur is probably a bit more accurate than terrorist, though, but I guess when the word terrorist has such a vague meaning, it becomes difficult to say, though. But, when one side throws stink bombs in areas away from people, while the other side throws metal objects, shoots industrial strength hoses, and uses sonic weapons to try and crash a helicopter into the Antarctic ocean, the whole idea of eco-terrorism becomes a bit more muddled.
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Old August 15 2009, 08:30 AM   #4
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Just watch this movie instead:
http://www.thecovemovie.com/

Less self-aggrandizing (well, at least from the impression I get... going to watch it this weekend).
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Old August 15 2009, 10:31 AM   #5
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Alidar, I love Whale Wars. But I love the fact that you gave a disclaimer that it was disturbing and graphic and then went on to describe the practices of the Japanese whaling fleet, instead of the crew of the Sea Shepherd, who continually put human life in danger. That's glorious. It just illustrates completely how far out there some folks really are.


They walk among us people. Wow. Disturbing indeed.
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Old August 15 2009, 05:42 PM   #6
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Re: Whale Wars

The warning that it was disturbing and graphic is a warning for those who specifically are going to watch the show. There's nothing graphic about what you see the Sea Shepherds doing. They throw bottles on ships away from people. It could be criminal, it could be dangerous, but it isn't graphic.

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Old August 15 2009, 06:48 PM   #7
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Re: Whale Wars

I've never watched the series (I can't be motivated to watch Discovery programming anymore... spend enough time around it at work and you don't want to see it at home). Some of my co-workers watch it (either for personal or professional reasons) and their reactions seem mixed. Some like it while others think they're crazy and stupid. It definitely stirs up controversy, which I guess is the point (?).
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Old August 15 2009, 07:01 PM   #8
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^it's actualy on Animal Planet, not the discovery channel
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Old August 15 2009, 08:42 PM   #9
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Yeah, learn your programming better

Although it does seem like a Discover Channel-type program.

Honestly, they do intentionally stir up controversy, but there's no real other way to stop whaling without controversy. I don't always support their tactics, but, then again, I don't condemn them. I do sometimes wonder if they do things for publicity (I have slight suspicions that the anthrax thing could have been faked), but they don't really have to try hard to create negative publicity for the whalers. All they have to do is have some cameras on board, since things don't look good for the Japanese.

Considering the forum we're in, I wonder if it's possible to discuss this just as a drama. It might not be possible considering it isn't fiction and there is significant controversy connected to it, but, it's really interesting how this season has managed to be entertaining even when they aren't in contact with the Japanese. It seems hard to even script fiction as well-paced as this season has been.
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Old August 15 2009, 09:08 PM   #10
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The hopeless and useless efforts from the crew of the Sea Shepherd are immensely entertaining. I don't follow the show, I only watch it when I happen to find it on, but do they ever stop the Japs from doing anything? The last ep. I saw had the crew looking on as the whalers harpooned and processed a whale right in front of their eyes and they were able to do absolutely dick. I'd pay to watch that kind of embarrassing display of impotence and disappointment. The look on their poor faces is priceless. They should sell pictures of them on postcards and get well soon cards. "Hope you feel better, at least your not this jackass"
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Old August 16 2009, 09:41 PM   #11
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^it's actualy on Animal Planet, not the discovery channel
Animal Planet is owned and operated by Discovery Communications (along with the Discovery Channel, TLC, the Science Channel, Planet Green, Investigation Discovery, HD Theater, the Military Channel, Discovery Health, FitTV and Discovery Kids). I should know, I work for them. Additionally, since APL is not available in all regions, shows like "Whale Wars" air on Discovery's international networks outside of the U.S.
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Old August 17 2009, 01:49 AM   #12
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Fine, you win
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Old August 18 2009, 08:47 PM   #13
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The hopeless and useless efforts from the crew of the Sea Shepherd are immensely entertaining. I don't follow the show, I only watch it when I happen to find it on, but do they ever stop the Japs from doing anything? The last ep. I saw had the crew looking on as the whalers harpooned and processed a whale right in front of their eyes and they were able to do absolutely dick. I'd pay to watch that kind of embarrassing display of impotence and disappointment. The look on their poor faces is priceless. They should sell pictures of them on postcards and get well soon cards. "Hope you feel better, at least your not this jackass"
It's well established here and in, you know, the real world that "Japs" is a racial slur. Warning for trolling issued.
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Old August 19 2009, 04:13 AM   #14
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Re: Whale Wars

So, I watched "The Cove" and I highly recommend it to anyone with any remote interest in the issue of Japanese whaling and dolphin fishing. They even got the Sea Shepherd guy to do an interview.

It's really informative and the "secret mission" stuff was extremely tense. They themselves describe it was Oceans 11 and that's basically what part of the movie was - an environmental heist film.
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Old August 22 2009, 04:54 PM   #15
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Re: Whale Wars

Did anyone see the last episode of the season? I thought it was interesting.

From a drama perspective, the last episode has everything:


It's difficult to say if they made a real difference, but the whaling fleet fell 305 whales short of their quota (which means they still killed 600-something whales). Overall, as long as some nation will give them a flag, I imagine that the Sea Shepherds will be back, so there will probably be a third season of Whale Wars next year.
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