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View Poll Results: District 9 - Your grade
Excellent 91 61.07%
Above Average 39 26.17%
Average 11 7.38%
Below Average 5 3.36%
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Old January 5 2010, 11:49 PM   #241
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Uh, that's because there are only humans in history.
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Old January 5 2010, 11:53 PM   #242
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Oh...you got the joke.

Good for you.
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Old January 6 2010, 12:06 AM   #243
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I'm sick of humans being the good guys.

District 9, Avatar, it's like every movie coming out these days has a human hero at the centre of it.
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Old January 6 2010, 01:12 AM   #244
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I'm sick of humans being the good guys.

District 9, Avatar, it's like every movie coming out these days has a human hero at the centre of it.
What are you talking about? District 9 didn't have a single "good guy." There wasn't a single redeeming character in the whole movie except, possibly, the alien kid and he was more innocent than good.

Hell, that's what I liked about the movie. Everyone of the main characters was a worthless piece of shit that deserved everything visited upon them and more.
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Old January 6 2010, 01:16 AM   #245
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What are you talking about?
Poking fun at a post a little above me, chiefly, lamenting the rise of the bad guy humans. That said:

District 9 didn't have a single "good guy." There wasn't a single redeeming character in the whole movie except, possibly, the alien kid and he was more innocent than good.
Nah, it had good guys. Not spotless or flawless good guys, but they were the people we were rooting for against the evil corporation and whose motives at the end were very respectable.
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Old January 6 2010, 01:38 AM   #246
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Dude, look at the facts. In every conflict known throughout history, humans have always been the bad guys.
What about when we fought those aliens you could only see with the funny glasses?
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Old January 6 2010, 03:55 AM   #247
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someone, somewhere needs to do a District 9/Avatar crossover parody. Robot Chicken maybe...
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Old January 6 2010, 04:01 AM   #248
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Christopher = Jake Sully = comedy gold
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Old January 6 2010, 12:46 PM   #249
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Nah, it had good guys. Not spotless or flawless good guys, but they were the people we were rooting for against the evil corporation and whose motives at the end were very respectable.
Anyone who not only takes pride, but gets overly excited, at the idea of abortion, offers souvenirs of it, and equates it (again, excitedly and gleefully) as popcorn will never be a "good guy" in my book. No matter what he ends up doing later. Especially when the only reason he does it is for purely selfish and delusional reasons.

Christopher Johnson was almost as bad as Wickus. He stranded and abandoned his people for no apparent reason, left them to rot in squalor and starve to death, but then twenty years later he sees them in a medical lab and comes up with some sob-story about how he has to go home to save them. Maybe he should have thought about that before doing what he did.

Again, Christopher's son is the only one who showed any signs of being a "good guy." And that was only because he was ignorant of what Wickus and Christopher had done/were doing.
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Old January 6 2010, 12:53 PM   #250
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Chris didn't abandon anyone, it took him 20 years to develop his intelligence (he wasn't always around as smart as he was) gain the right materials he needed for the fluid (it wasn't the mere amount of fluid he needed, he had to mix the right kinds to make the stuff he needed). He couldn't have done what he was going to do any faster.
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Old January 6 2010, 02:20 PM   #251
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Chris didn't abandon anyone, it took him 20 years to develop his intelligence (he wasn't always around as smart as he was) gain the right materials he needed for the fluid (it wasn't the mere amount of fluid he needed, he had to mix the right kinds to make the stuff he needed). He couldn't have done what he was going to do any faster.
Where are you coming up with any of that nonsense? Nothing at all in the movie even hinted that he was in the same caste as the other Prawn. It took him 20 years to create more fuel, which he had clearly been doing for the entire 20 years. Meaning he knew exactly what to do from the very beginning. This was only reinforced by the fact that his son, who would have been of the same caste/breeding as Christopher, who also had a natural ability to understand and repair their technology. If it was that easy for them to learn and develop, more of them would have been rocket scientists.

It was his drop ship. He ditched it from the mothership soon after it arrived. He abandoned his people. He left them to starve and to rot. For no apparent reason whatsoever. You can't even claim it was to create the fuel: He needed their own technology to do that, which he could have done just as easily on the mothership (and probably much faster due to exponentially greater resources and doubtlessly more advanced refining technologies); a mothership of which he could just as easily have parked in orbit, hovering over the moon, or anywhere else he needed that would keep humanity away long enough for him to do what needed to be done. For whatever reason there was to do it. Even if he did have to isolate himself and let his people starve, he was safer and had access to everything he needed while docked to the mothership. There was no reason at the time he abandoned them to abandon them.

Colossal dicks. Both of them.
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Old January 6 2010, 10:33 PM   #252
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Christopher = Jake Sully = comedy gold
Wikus is sent to evict the Navi from their home tree.
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Old January 6 2010, 10:45 PM   #253
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I think it telling that based on the percentage more people consider District 9 as EXCELLENT at 61% vs AVATARS 53%.
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Old January 7 2010, 12:24 AM   #254
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I certainly enjoyed District 9 over Avatar and a lot of other mainstream films this year.
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Old January 7 2010, 01:47 AM   #255
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Chris didn't abandon anyone, it took him 20 years to develop his intelligence (he wasn't always around as smart as he was) gain the right materials he needed for the fluid (it wasn't the mere amount of fluid he needed, he had to mix the right kinds to make the stuff he needed). He couldn't have done what he was going to do any faster.
Where are you coming up with any of that nonsense? Nothing at all in the movie even hinted that he was in the same caste as the other Prawn. It took him 20 years to create more fuel, which he had clearly been doing for the entire 20 years. Meaning he knew exactly what to do from the very beginning. This was only reinforced by the fact that his son, who would have been of the same caste/breeding as Christopher, who also had a natural ability to understand and repair their technology. If it was that easy for them to learn and develop, more of them would have been rocket scientists.

It was his drop ship. He ditched it from the mothership soon after it arrived. He abandoned his people. He left them to starve and to rot. For no apparent reason whatsoever. You can't even claim it was to create the fuel: He needed their own technology to do that, which he could have done just as easily on the mothership (and probably much faster due to exponentially greater resources and doubtlessly more advanced refining technologies); a mothership of which he could just as easily have parked in orbit, hovering over the moon, or anywhere else he needed that would keep humanity away long enough for him to do what needed to be done. For whatever reason there was to do it. Even if he did have to isolate himself and let his people starve, he was safer and had access to everything he needed while docked to the mothership. There was no reason at the time he abandoned them to abandon them.

Colossal dicks. Both of them.
I think he got it from the Director's commentary. So yes, Christopher was much more the "hero" of the story.

Wickus was just an ordinary bureaucrat who either didn't really appreciate what he was involved in or found a way to deal with it to get through the day. But that's the whole point of a character arc. By the end he's done a total 180 and is as much a victim as anyone else. No matter how much of a twat he was, I can't say as he deserved what he got...almost, but not quite.
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