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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old July 31 2009, 09:59 PM   #1
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The SYNTH myth

I was at comic-con this weekend, and while walking outside to get some fresh air (whew..talk about a mix of perfume/bo in that place) and I got to talking with a Star Trek fan who claims that there was sythnesizer music already penned for KHAN when they decided to use Horner/orchestra. Does anyone know if that is true, and if they ever made that music public???

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Old August 1 2009, 01:28 AM   #2
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That's pretty crazy. They barely had two cents to spend on the thing to start with, the last thing they'd do is commission a synthesizer score WHILE THE FILM WAS IN PRODUCTION under Meyer (which would have had to be the case, since Horner was already on the movie when it shot, since you see him in uniform.)
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Old August 1 2009, 04:08 AM   #3
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(whew..talk about a mix of perfume/bo in that place)

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Old August 1 2009, 04:15 AM   #4
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Meyer was the director of TWOK from the get-go. They never considered anyone else. And I can't imagine Meyer ever even considering a synth score for the film. In fact, he speaks very specifically about his desires for the score and its grand naval feel. I suspect that synth thing is a myth.
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Old August 1 2009, 04:19 AM   #5
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Meyer was the director of TWOK from the get-go. They never considered anyone else. And I can't imagine Meyer ever even considering a synth score for the film. In fact, he speaks very specifically about his desires for the score and its grand naval feel. I suspect that synth thing is a myth.
I agree...but I have had heard the rumors that they were going to have synth score, but when they realized how good it was, they went with an orchestrated score. I am very glad they did.

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Old August 1 2009, 08:23 AM   #6
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It's not entirely impossible that Horner used a synthesizer to help write the music and 'test it' against the footage before having the orchestra record the real deal.
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Old August 1 2009, 06:54 PM   #7
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Horner doesn't write his music that way.

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Old August 1 2009, 10:07 PM   #8
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I think the only thing synthesized here is this rumor.
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Old August 1 2009, 10:25 PM   #9
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I think the only thing synthesized here is this rumor.
I had thought so...But I do remember reading some where back, not sure where, that Paramount was favoring a synth soundtrack (we are talking paramount here) and that later, when they started getting the film in, they went ahead and decided to get a real score. That rumor goes back years...

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Old August 2 2009, 12:01 AM   #10
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^ Well, Paramount did want to do TWOK on the cheap, that's for sure. But I can't imagine that a synth score was ever seriously considered by anyone actually involved with the film's production. And unless circumstances were very unusual, I'm pretty sure decisions about the music are usually left up to the director.
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Meyer was the director of TWOK from the get-go. They never considered anyone else. And I can't imagine Meyer ever even considering a synth score for the film. In fact, he speaks very specifically about his desires for the score and its grand naval feel. I suspect that synth thing is a myth.
He considered Miklos Rosza first.
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Old August 2 2009, 02:37 AM   #12
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It's not entirely impossible that Horner used a synthesizer to help write the music and 'test it' against the footage before having the orchestra record the real deal.
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Horner doesn't write his music that way.
I remember reading somewhere that Edelman recorded the TUC main theme on a synthesizer and played it for the producers before getting the go-ahead to record it with an orchestra. Maybe somebody got their Meyer movies mixed up.

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Well, one should also consider that what Meyer wanted, may not have been what other people such as the other producers, and the studio, wanted, and at some point another composer could have submitted ideas.
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Old August 2 2009, 02:46 PM   #14
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On the soundtrack for either II or III there was a synth/rock cut at the end.
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Old August 2 2009, 02:52 PM   #15
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On the soundtrack for either II or III there was a synth/rock cut at the end.
Not on the editions I have, which are the original LPs. Are you maybe thinking of the "Market Street" cue from the Voyage Home soundtrack, or "The Moon's a Window to Heaven" (Uhura's fandance music) from The Final Frontier?
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