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Old December 28 2009, 12:49 AM   #1
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Scotty in the Pipe

One thing apparently a lot of people agree on (who otherwise enjoyed the movie) is a dislike of the bit where Kirk and Scotty beam onto the Enterprise and Scotty winds up in a coolant pipe. On the commentary Abrams mentions that the producers, when going through the script -looking for things to cut, suggested this scene because it was costly and unneccary to the story. Abrams took issue and said that it was since he didn't want Transwarp Beaming to seem easy. There needed to be some of consequence for doing it. In fact, every time the transporter gets used something goes wrong, except the last time (The Rule of Three). I liked that a lot since it made beaming less of a plot convenience and more of an added danger.

I was wondering how they could have achieved this without resorting to a comic set piece involving Simon Pegg in a tranluscent tube. One way would have them simply transport several feet off the ground and then drop like Wile E. Coyote after they're finished beaming. Elaborating on that idea you could have them reappear upside down, sideways, diagonal or whatever. In space there is no up or down.
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Old December 28 2009, 12:58 AM   #2
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Its not so much the situation that bothered me, rather the engineering "set" itself. God I hope they remodel engineering for the next movie. The brewery has to go
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Old December 28 2009, 01:04 AM   #3
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Willy Wonka.


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Old December 28 2009, 02:29 AM   #4
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Old December 28 2009, 03:03 AM   #5
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I thought it was funny.
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Old December 28 2009, 03:04 AM   #6
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Was that actually supposed to be engineering or was it sub-engineering?
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Old December 28 2009, 03:06 AM   #7
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Engineering is probably big, with all sorts of different "environments"
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Old December 28 2009, 07:24 AM   #8
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Was that actually supposed to be engineering or was it sub-engineering?
Engineering deck, Turbine Station 3 (also mentioned in dialogue.) You kinda get the impression that there's a lot more to Engineering than just the turbine room
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Old December 28 2009, 11:15 AM   #9
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The bit with the choppy swirly blades reminded me of the scene from Galaxy Quest.
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Old December 28 2009, 03:57 PM   #10
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The bit with the choppy swirly blades reminded me of the scene from Galaxy Quest.
The scene likely had the same inspiration and goal.
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Old December 28 2009, 04:17 PM   #11
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Well, the scene worked well enough for how they did it, and since they did it with CGI it turned out to be less expensive than the producers thought (and it wasn't even that long, either). But if you're looking for a simpler way to do it, you would have simply had Scotty beam into a big translucent tank behind Kirk and Kirk having to blast him out with a phaser.
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Old December 28 2009, 04:19 PM   #12
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I thought the scene was really funny
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Old December 28 2009, 04:38 PM   #13
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The bit with the choppy swirly blades reminded me of the scene from Galaxy Quest.
The scene likely had the same inspiration and goal.

I could have sworn that was mentioned in the commentary. Or did i make that up? In any event, that was the first thing i thought of when i saw those blades. What really put the icing on the cake was Pine's expression. It clearly said, "WTF?????"

I'll admit, the first time i saw the movie i thought this scene (and the big hands scene) were over the top. But after the first viewing, once i removed the canon that was up my butt, i relaxed and really enjoyed both scenes. For those that say Star Trek shouldn't have this kind of humor, i suggest watching Star Trek IV to refresh their memories. That movie had plenty of over the top humor that worked, and no one has ever accused that movie of not being "Star Trek".

And just to repeat myself from other posts, i had absolutely no problem with engineering.
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Old December 28 2009, 04:50 PM   #14
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yes Pine was very good in the water tube scene poor Scotty
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Old December 28 2009, 04:57 PM   #15
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Yeoman Randi wrote: View Post
For those that say Star Trek shouldn't have this kind of humor, i suggest watching Star Trek IV to refresh their memories.
Double dumbass on you!
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