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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old April 1 2013, 09:18 PM   #16
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Re: TSFS BluRay - Letterboxed Opening Credits

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I don't think that's the reason, though. On the DVDs there is no pillarboxing and there even is some space left on both sides of her name.

You are quite right--they never had that before on VHS, Laserdisc or DVD, but something to do with Blu-ray transfers causes studios to occasionally do that.

That makes it even more annoying.

It is clearly ONLY the credits not before or after. The windowboxing begins and ends exactly when the credits do. What other reason to do that than something to do with the credit graphics?

There was a goof up--somebody thought they needed to do that to save the names from being cut off, but clearly it is NOT needed as what you pointed out is true.
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Old April 1 2013, 09:26 PM   #17
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Re: TSFS BluRay - Letterboxed Opening Credits

So, the credits are not windowboxed on the VHS and LD releases? That's strange ... I thought that maybe - since all BDs are the theatrical versions - that this is the way TSFS had been presented in theaters back then. But then, the VHS would also have the windowboxed credits, wouldn't it?
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Old April 1 2013, 09:34 PM   #18
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So, the credits are not windowboxed on the VHS and LD releases? That's strange ... I thought that maybe - since all BDs are the theatrical versions - that this is the way TSFS had been presented in theaters back then. But then, the VHS would also have the windowboxed credits, wouldn't it?

No, on the 'widesceen' versions on VHS and Laserdisc they did not make this mistake. They waited till the ultimate HD version to blow it.

If you watch it closely you can actually see them 'zoom out' at the beginning of the credits--revealing a blank area with no stars on the sides and just as the Enterprise appears on screen right you can see them zoom back in--with the picture once again filling the entire screen. awful!
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Old April 1 2013, 10:17 PM   #19
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Re: TSFS BluRay - Letterboxed Opening Credits

It's distressing to see "windowboxing" now since HDTVs no longer overscan. It was necessary in the days of standard def and CRTs.
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Old April 2 2013, 01:07 AM   #20
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I always thought The Search for Spock credit sequence looked incredibly cheap, regardless of format.
I remember hearing the clouds being flown through were left over from that same year's RED DAWN. That's pretty cheap all right.
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Old April 2 2013, 02:46 AM   #21
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Plenty of films re-use shots from other films. Back to the Future Part II uses aerial footage from FireFox. Raiders of the Lost Ark uses footage from Lost Horizon and The Hindenburg. There are more examples, but you get the point.
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