The Destruction of Romulus!?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by Esirprus, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2001
    Location:
    America, Fuck Yeah!!!
    Supposed to be pitching a series to CBS. He has a 'backdoor'. :eek:

    Ninja'd by Squiggy!
     
  2. Dukhat

    Dukhat Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2007
    Location:
    Maryland, USA
    Oh...er...ok. Is he Michael Dorn?
     
  3. Melakon

    Melakon Admiral In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Location:
    Melakon's grave
    From the film Hearts of the West...

     
  4. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Location:
    Lancaster, PA
    Good point.

    Romulus was destroyed in the Prime universe. Vulcan was destroyed in the nuUniverse.

    And destroying Vulcan arguably creates as many story possibilities as it closes while making it crystal clear that this is a whole new STAR TREK where anything can happen.

    What could be less limiting than that?
     
  5. Tarek71

    Tarek71 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2007
    Location:
    Asgard
    I would only do that if you are pitching a Star Trek reboot. In which case the decks are clear to tell whatever story you want. A new third timeline/universe.

    But if you say that it is set in the Prime universe, than that is all the events from Broken Bow in 2151 thru Nemesis to the departure of Spock and Nero in 2387.

    All of it. Including ST V, A Night In Sickbay, Omega Glory, Threshold, the Son'a and Romulus getting blown up? Yep, all of it. The good, the bad and the ugly.
     
  6. martok2112

    martok2112 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    I am constantly amused by those who think that somehow, someway, they are going to change Trek back to "the way they want it"! The post (and his/her follow up posts) does nothing but scream "True Fan", "True Trek" horseshit.

    If the OP has no knowledge of ST09, then I seriously doubt he/she'll have any chance at all of getting even a glance from CBS and TPTB.

    It's just another "Abrams raped my childhood" waaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. RoJoHen

    RoJoHen Awesome Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2000
    Location:
    QC, IL, USA
    Except in this case no childhoods were raped because the OP never even bothered watching the movie.
     
  8. martok2112

    martok2112 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Oh,no. Trust me....it's another one of those threads. :)

    CR by association. :D
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2015
  9. Grendelsbayne

    Grendelsbayne Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2013
    Location:
    Netherlands
    No idea on the logic, but it's also worth noting that the availability of titles is also different in different countries. My netflix offers Star Trek (09) and Insurrection, but nothing else.
     
  10. Esirprus

    Esirprus Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Location:
    Our galaxy is good enough
    Firstly Paramount is responsible in full for the movies. I don't think CBS gets any money from them.

    Secondly CBS made a ton of money off all the other Star Treks and still let Rick Berman and Brannon Braga ignore 98% of all other Trek when they were doing enterprise. I think it may work. If I have to acknowledge it this thread has helped me make a plan. Hopefully I won't have to use it.
     
  11. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Location:
    New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
    My copy of the "Star Trek" (2009) and "Into Darkness" Blu-Ray four-disk set carries logos for Spyglass, Bad Robot, Skydance and Paramount, and in small print advises that "Star Trek" and related marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc.

    Ummm, no they didn't. Except for a few minor glitches, every variation to pedantic fan expectation of canon (and "fanon") was able to be explained away, or was specifically addressed in later episodes.
     
  12. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Location:
    A type 13 planet in it's final stage
    Just to put things into perspective, CBS makes something like $20 million a year from Star Trek merchandise based on the original show. The last movie made almost $500 million. :)
     
  13. Esirprus

    Esirprus Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Location:
    Our galaxy is good enough
    Thank you all for the hard criticism. Unfortunately my connection to internet is highly limited and viewing the movies that way is not an option for me. Why I started this thread. Perhaps I should start one in X+. Asking in more detail about what occurs in twenty three eighty seven the year my work begins in. As for the mistakes of Enterprise was it ever explained why the ship was hosting an alien doctor when it was a United Earth starship like Kirk's Enterprise was at first?
     
  14. Squiggy

    Squiggy FrozenToad Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Location:
    Left Bank
    Get Netflix and get the DVDs mailed to you then.


    If you would have watched Star Trek in the past two decades....yes, it was explained.

    You could at lease Google these questions. The internet is much more robust than it was when Generations came out.
     
  15. Esirprus

    Esirprus Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Location:
    Our galaxy is good enough
    I have tried to read synopsises online about the stories. I couldn't make heads or tails of the ST09 one however.

    Netflix isn't an option, unfortunately. Got another sugestion? I know. I'll Google those questions. See what pops up.
     
  16. Esirprus

    Esirprus Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Location:
    Our galaxy is good enough
    Thank you emphatically for this suggestion!! :techman: I Googled it as suggested and a new intro to the series is formulating in my head that I think is far better than the pilot I initially wrote. I think it should work much better now! Thanks!
     
  17. Dukhat

    Dukhat Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2007
    Location:
    Maryland, USA
    Streaming services like Amazon Prime and Hulu have the movies. You can watch them right on your computer. Amazon Prime is free for the first month. Sign up, watch all the movies, but don't continue after 30 days if money is an issue. Although I have to question how that can be if you have enough money to pay for an Internet connection. I also have to question how you think you're going to talk to CBS about pitching a Trek series when you have no knowledge of the last 20 years of Star Trek.
     
  18. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2001
    Location:
    America, Fuck Yeah!!!
    You do realize that CBS owns Star Trek and Paramount pays a licensing fee to them for the rights to make the films?

    They actually didn't break "canon" hardly at all. What they broke were fan assumptions about what went on during those years. Give you a guess which one CBS cares nothing about...
     
  19. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2001
    Location:
    America, Fuck Yeah!!!
    I remember there being guidelines for first time writers, pitching to the various shows. One of the first rules was to put the universe back the way you found it when pitching a story. I think Pocket Books has the same rule.
     
  20. Squiggy

    Squiggy FrozenToad Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Location:
    Left Bank
    Another guideline is probably "know what in the hell you're talking about."