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Old April 13 2014, 05:33 PM   #166
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I thought of something. In Star Trek Into Darkness Khan tells Kirk about the Io Facility at the coordinates 23.17.46.11. But if everything in the Sol System revolves around something and at different rates, then how can coordinates for anything exist? Be tied into astronomy databases?
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Old April 13 2014, 06:17 PM   #167
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They could be orbital parameters -- semimajor axis, inclination, argument of perihelion, eccentricity. Although those numbers given wouldn't fit those parameters for Jupiter.
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Old April 18 2014, 10:01 AM   #168
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Perhaps the top-secret Section 31 base moves, and Khan knew where it would be at that time.
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Old April 18 2014, 03:24 PM   #169
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^Dude, if it's in orbit of Jupiter, of course it moves.
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Old April 18 2014, 07:46 PM   #170
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Re: Members of the Federation.

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^Dude, if it's in orbit of Jupiter, of course it moves.
I read that in a magazine somewhere.

The magazine was called DUH.
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Old April 20 2014, 09:03 PM   #171
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If Picard states in First Contact that the Federation in 2373 spans 8000 light years, then roughly how much time does that take at warp 9 to traverse?
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Old April 20 2014, 09:10 PM   #172
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^Whatever's convenient to the current plot.
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^Dude, if it's in orbit of Jupiter, of course it moves.
Throughout the solar system. Not tethered to Jupiter's orbit.
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Old April 20 2014, 09:13 PM   #173
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^The point is, everything in space moves, so coordinates can't be treated as fixed locations. The logical approach to defining the coordinates of any object within a planetary system is through its orbital parameters.
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Old April 20 2014, 09:19 PM   #174
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Isn't that a flaw of Trek's "boxes in space" sector system in general? I figured the co-ordinates were based on that.
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Old April 20 2014, 11:06 PM   #175
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Isn't that a flaw of Trek's "boxes in space" sector system in general? I figured the co-ordinates were based on that.
Sectors are 20 light-years on a side. It takes tens of millennia for stars to move that far. I'm talking about motions within the Solar System, a vastly smaller scale. It only takes Jupiter three hours to traverse its own diameter (it takes Earth about seven minutes to do the same, since it's smaller and faster). If you say that, oh, Vulcan is in Sector 005, that's going to remain true for thousands of years, but if you try to define Jupiter's position based on some kind of fixed XYZ grid, those coordinates will be obsolete in hours.
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Old May 12 2014, 09:16 PM   #176
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Also in Into Darkness he just gives those coordinate numbers, he doesn't say what system it is in

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