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Old September 4 2013, 08:21 PM   #31
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Re: China to land rover on Moon by end of this year

Of course, one aspect of all this hasn't been commented on and that's the politics. Russia and China have command economies and if the powers that be want spaceflight, they'll get it.

Here a lot of the go/no-go decisions on space are made by people who lack even a fundamental understanding of science and the hardware is built by companies who view government contracts as a license to make money.

We don't need new technology, we may need new hardware right now, but what we need most is the sheer will to do it and in a democracy that comes from the bottom up.

If enough congresscritters hear from their constituencies that spaceflight should get a higher priority, it will get that higher priority. If folks think the status quo is fine, then they'll get that too.
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Old September 4 2013, 08:22 PM   #32
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Re: China to land rover on Moon by end of this year

See if i were heading Nasa, the asteroid belts would be the target. Mining ops and study.

Once astromining becomes viable, there wont be a funding issue.
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Old September 5 2013, 03:44 AM   #33
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Re: China to land rover on Moon by end of this year

China sees space travel as a superpower litmus test, that's the only reason for this.

If they got to Mars, then I'd be impressed.
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Old September 6 2013, 03:50 PM   #34
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Re: China to land rover on Moon by end of this year

In related news, NASA is launching a lunar probe today:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ladee/main/index.html
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Old September 6 2013, 07:29 PM   #35
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Re: China to land rover on Moon by end of this year

E-DUB wrote: View Post
Of course, one aspect of all this hasn't been commented on and that's the politics. Russia and China have command economies and if the powers that be want spaceflight, they'll get it.
This makes no sense. NASA is a government agency, which means that it works just like a command economy works. The opposite would be a free market space travel program, which many people (critical that NASA isn't cutting it) have advocated.
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Old September 7 2013, 08:14 PM   #36
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Re: China to land rover on Moon by end of this year

Looks like China isn't going anywhere after all. The CZ-9 looks dead
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/ind...topic=8447.180
http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=vi...e=49#pid260385

Here is the DPRK's next LV, the UNHA 9
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/ind...?topic=32650.0
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Old September 7 2013, 08:39 PM   #37
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Re: China to land rover on Moon by end of this year

I hope China's Moon lander uses these EmDrive thrusters for it's descent to the surface. Probably no lunar dust disturbed by landing with their use.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...nd-cold-fusion
http://emdrive.com/
http://www.emdrive.com/2Gupdate.pdf
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Old September 7 2013, 08:59 PM   #38
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Assuming that drive even works--and that is a big if--it is a space drive only. Ion engines, field effect--that sort of thing--doesn't have the thrust to descend to the Moon's surface. Can they dock with an asteroid? Maybe.

If you want to land on Europa or the Moon, you will have to do a LEM type burn. There just isn't a way around that. Look, I wish anti-gravity was real. I wish the EM drive was real. But if you don't believe me, then ask my rival here, Byeman, as Jim from NASASPACEFLIGHT likes to call himself.

We may not agree on much--but we both take a dim view of some of these promised field effect craft. I don't buy into them, and I don't think he does either. Send him a PM if you don't believe me.
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