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Old July 10 2014, 01:36 PM   #31
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Re: Why did the flute people...

Does it matter that I didn't use the species name? Some would be more confused at the species name than "flute people" anyway.

Anyway a few people got a laugh out of it, I thought it was pretty funny when I typed it too.
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Old July 10 2014, 02:53 PM   #32
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Anyway, my two biggest beefs with the episode is that the Kataan people are consistently portrayed with an eighteenth or nineteenth century level of technological development, and then all of a sudden, here's this probe with technology that's more advanced than the Federation's!
It's not more advanced; the Enterprise had just not encountered anything like it before. If it wasn't connected to Picard, they could have disabled it easily.

The probe was a last ditch attempt to save the memories of their people. They clearly lacked the technology to build a fleet of ships with life support systems, but apparently mind probe technology was something within their grasp. Different societies develop different branches of technology at different rates.

You could wonder why they didn't load the probe full of books, but if you wanted your society to be remembered, wouldn't it be more efficient to use a probe to snare passers by and bring them to your planet, rather than take the contents of your planet to them? Moreover, you could simply infer that memories are a more precious commodity to these people than physical trickets. They are alien, after all.
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Old July 10 2014, 03:34 PM   #33
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It was that the OP could have done a one-minute Google search to find the name of the alien race
Oh please, it's no different than referring to one of the TOS episode as "the one with the salt vampire."

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Old July 10 2014, 07:15 PM   #34
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Re: Why did the flute people...

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Does it matter that I didn't use the species name? Some would be more confused at the species name than "flute people" anyway.

Anyway a few people got a laugh out of it, I thought it was pretty funny when I typed it too.
I loved the hell out of it..."The Flute People!"...

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It was that the OP could have done a one-minute Google search to find the name of the alien race
Oh please, it's no different than referring to one of the TOS episode as "the one with the salt vampire."


...agreed!!!...or, "the one with the hungry fuzz balls"...

...what my then 5-year old daughter called it when she was watching it for the first time on my DVD collection!...
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Old July 11 2014, 01:58 PM   #35
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One of my favs, also for the same reasons...but, again, I am one of "those people"...and happy to be,...

Maybe I was too harsh sounding in my previous post, it's a good little drama, and I don't think it's bad, but it's very much hyped as one of the "best" episodes and I think that the those people I was refering to were the kind that maybe only have seen a few episodes and latch on to that one, like reviews in tv guide or on a website like slate or something where I feel like they have the same type of attitude that the characters did in the first few seasons, the were better people than you attitude. I'm not explaining too well, but it's the attitude that they are eglitarian and advanced and everyone else isn't based on what they like. See how they treated the three people in "The Neutral Zone" for example.

And I still think it's cruel to use Picard that way, but maybe since they knew he would completely recover and be fine in 10 seconds they didn't mind?
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Old July 11 2014, 03:21 PM   #36
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Re: Why did the flute people...

When I see "The Flute People" I think of that damned talking flute on H.R. Puffnstuff.
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Old July 11 2014, 07:44 PM   #37
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so...you want to know if Picard should have shared his experience being probed by flautists?

Probably not, although I am sure a fanfic is on the way....
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Old July 11 2014, 08:06 PM   #38
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Does it matter that I didn't use the species name? Some would be more confused at the species name than "flute people" anyway.
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Oh please, it's no different than referring to one of the TOS episode as "the one with the salt vampire."
It didn't particularly matter to me. I was just extrapolating what I believed Mutai meant. If I'm wrong, he can correct me.

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It's not more advanced; the Enterprise had just not encountered anything like it before. If it wasn't connected to Picard, they could have disabled it easily.

The probe was a last ditch attempt to save the memories of their people. They clearly lacked the technology to build a fleet of ships with life support systems, but apparently mind probe technology was something within their grasp. Different societies develop different branches of technology at different rates.
That's just speculation on your part. We have no idea of exactly what the technical expertise of this race was. It's no different from the Organians, or the Ba'ku. One wouldn't be able to immediately judge their level of technology based solely on their appearance.

In this instance, we have what looks like an eighteenth century civilization, and yet they have the technology to at least build and launch rockets into deep space, and build probes with the ability to instill images into the mind of a completely alien being (Picard), and have that probe remain functional for centuries after it had been launched.
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Old July 11 2014, 09:11 PM   #39
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I must say, this is a poorly conceived thread title. Take the time to determine the name of the alien species involved, or at least the name of the episode. "Flute people" is simply inadequate to the task.
Disagree. I don't have the name of the flute people in my head, but I know the episode with the flute. OTOH, if the "correct" name had been used, I'd have to do a search.

EDIT: some other people already said that.
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Old July 11 2014, 10:00 PM   #40
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Destroy their memory bank after it transferred all the data to Picard?

More could have been learned by repeated visits by other people.

And what if he hit his head and forgot the whole thing before writing it down?
I agree, and I have often wondered why they only tried to communicate with one person. Perhaps they had hoped to contact the ship's computer or communication system, so many people could learn about them, but the captain accidentally got zapped, instead.

This episode is one of my favorites--very melancholy, but beautiful. The flute melody makes it an even more haunting memory.
Its a favourite of mine as well. Just so touching. You see, sometimes inconsistencies and unbelievable occurences on TV must be brushed under the rag...especially for the sake of a classic like "The Inner Light."
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Old July 12 2014, 07:57 AM   #41
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One of my favs, also for the same reasons...but, again, I am one of "those people"...and happy to be,...

Maybe I was too harsh sounding in my previous post, it's a good little drama, and I don't think it's bad, but it's very much hyped as one of the "best" episodes and I think that the those people I was refering to were the kind that maybe only have seen a few episodes and latch on to that one, like reviews in tv guide or on a website like slate or something where I feel like they have the same type of attitude that the characters did in the first few seasons, the were better people than you attitude. I'm not explaining too well, but it's the attitude that they are eglitarian and advanced and everyone else isn't based on what they like. See how they treated the three people in "The Neutral Zone" for example.

And I still think it's cruel to use Picard that way, but maybe since they knew he would completely recover and be fine in 10 seconds they didn't mind?
I think I know just what you mean, and there are many times I have the same outlook...this time with this episode, I did not get past the emotional and visceral impact "Inner Light" had on me...I am a life-long Trekkie (TOS first aired when I was 9) and lean towards emotion and feeling rather than logic and dictum most times...That is what I was referring to when I said "those people" I think you did fine in your explanation, and isn't this what ST and the Forum is all about!?!?...exchange of ideas and opinions and canon and all of it!!!
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Old July 12 2014, 07:31 PM   #42
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Re: Why did the flute people...

time to another TOS-TNG "which's better?" comparison (I love those):

Best Episode of TOS: Kirk travels thru time and saves the universe
Best Episode of TNG: Picard learns to play a little flute
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Old July 12 2014, 07:41 PM   #43
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Best Episode of TNG: Picard learns to play a little flute
I far prefer TOS and in no way consider "The Inner Light" the best episode of TNG. No even close. I'd rather watch "The Royale".
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Old July 12 2014, 07:51 PM   #44
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It's a good episode but way way overrated. It's rather slow and not much exciting stuff happens.
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