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Old March 13 2014, 01:59 AM   #151
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''Genre'' films can also be loosely defined as thrillers, which may give the Oscars reason to discount most of them. And more often than not, thrillers which win Best Picture (THE FRENCH CONNECTION, THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS and NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN) tend to have their chief villain escape. The directors of FRIDAY THE 13TH and HALLOWEEN films may be wondering what the hell they did wrong.
Genre films could also be loosely defined as all films.
But, they aren't. Certainly not on this board.
Genre films are pretty much sci-fi, fantasy, action.

The point is: Gravity didn't crack any glass that wasn't already cracked by Return of the King. To point a finer point on it: Gravity, while clearly science fiction, is a very realistic movie (in fact, I would say the only fantastical thing in it is Bullock's character being allowed into orbit with her emotional baggage). It's basically Apollo 13.

Then we have Return of the King, with it's elves, it's hobbits, magic, etc.

Certainly more out of the box than many many many Oscar winning films.


I also keep wondering if the Academy wouldn't have voted for an untraditional comedy in 1977 (ANNIE HALL) had STAR WARS not been in the running. A lesser of two ''evils?''
Or, quite possibly, many thought Annie Hall was the best picture of that year--regardless of box office.
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Old March 15 2014, 01:33 AM   #152
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I have for some time asserted (and I stand by my assertion) that all fiction is genre fiction, in that all works of fiction represent at least one genre. In the unlikely event that a work is utterly unlike any previous work of fiction, the work is not without a genre; it is simply the type-specimen defining new genre (arguably, Coover's "The Babysitter" could be regarded as the type specimen for "contemporary realism with multiple parallel realities"). For a work of fiction to be utterly without a genre, it would have to be utterly indescribable.

And no, Gravity is not Apollo 13. Apollo 13 is a realistic and reasonably accurate representation of real events, based on Lost Moon, Lovell's memoir of that particular mission. I lived through those events (I was 7 years old at the time), and while all I knew at the time was what the television networks and the newspapers covered, I remember the uncertainty over whether the crew would survive. Gravity, on the other hand, is a work of fiction.
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Old March 16 2014, 07:29 PM   #153
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It feels like this was directed at my post, if not, then....

hbquikcomjamesl wrote: View Post

And no, Gravity is not Apollo 13. Apollo 13 is a realistic and reasonably accurate representation of real events, based on Lost Moon, Lovell's memoir of that particular mission. I lived through those events (I was 7 years old at the time), and while all I knew at the time was what the television networks and the newspapers covered, I remember the uncertainty over whether the crew would survive. Gravity, on the other hand, is a work of fiction.
Well clearly. It's also a realistic and reasonably accurate representation of what MIGHT happen if it were to be real.

That is why Gravity is LIKE Apollo 13. As in similar.
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I also keep wondering if the Academy wouldn't have voted for an untraditional comedy in 1977 (ANNIE HALL) had STAR WARS not been in the running. A lesser of two ''evils?''
The Academy loves Woody Allen, so I doubt the competition was a huge factor.
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