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Old March 8 2015, 05:32 PM   #346
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Honestly, the setup didn't really work for me here. How did everyone jump so quickly from "She had a note signed by him on her body" to "He's the only suspect in her murder?" Sure, the note should've led the cops to Sherlock as a possible witness or source of information, but by itself, it shouldn't give them reason to suspect him of murder, not when they know he's a police consultant. There should've been something more incriminating than just the note in order to justify Holmes being the prime suspect rather than just a person of interest. That was bugging me for most of the episode.
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Old March 8 2015, 08:02 PM   #347
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I get where you're coming from, Christopher, and I agree with that in large part. I think Holmes made himself a suspect by his attitude toward the detectives from the other precinct and his insistence that he had no idea who the woman was. If Holmes had said he knew her and had an explanation for how he knew her, they wouldn't have had a reason to consider him a suspect. But his insistence that he didn't know her meant that at that point, as far as they were concerned, they had a blatant liar across the table from them, and based on his reputation they knew he was unlikely to crack. So they had no reason not to treat him as a hostile suspect.

The thing that bugged me about the note is that I'm not sure a paper napkin would have held up like that for three years. Was it hermetically sealed or something? I kept expecting the "Holmes is being framed with planted evidence" shoe to drop throughout the episode.
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Old March 8 2015, 09:31 PM   #348
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I get where you're coming from, Christopher, and I agree with that in large part. I think Holmes made himself a suspect by his attitude toward the detectives from the other precinct and his insistence that he had no idea who the woman was. If Holmes had said he knew her and had an explanation for how he knew her, they wouldn't have had a reason to consider him a suspect. But his insistence that he didn't know her meant that at that point, as far as they were concerned, they had a blatant liar across the table from them, and based on his reputation they knew he was unlikely to crack. So they had no reason not to treat him as a hostile suspect.
I dunno, it looked to me like they already considered him to be a suspect. I got the impression that Gregson already knew that when he called Holmes in.


The thing that bugged me about the note is that I'm not sure a paper napkin would have held up like that for three years. Was it hermetically sealed or something? I kept expecting the "Holmes is being framed with planted evidence" shoe to drop throughout the episode.
The murder victim was buried until recently, they said. Maybe she was wrapped in plastic?
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Old March 13 2015, 04:10 AM   #349
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I broke up when they showed the photo of the "murder suspect" in the climactic scene this week. I'm still laughing. I'd noticed the movie poster on the guy's wall, but I didn't make the connection to the man in the sketch.

I was so busy breaking up, in fact, that I missed the explanation of who had actually strangled the movie buff. He killed the first guy, but who killed him?
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I was so busy breaking up, in fact, that I missed the explanation of who had actually strangled the movie buff. He killed the first guy, but who killed him?
One of the two guys at Cryo NYC. They killed him because they were afraid he could turn on them, since they were all in the murder of Jim Sullivan together.
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Yeah, I figured that had to be it, but I was too busy laughing at Torgo to notice.
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