I grew up on The Only Series. Trek's New Guise was good in a lot of ways, but I hated the perfect humans and early "surrender-monkey" Picard. DS9 was better, and got more so the more it ripped off B5. VOY had some good ideas, but was too uneven in execution. Early Nu Trek just didn't work for me. JJ Trek had excellent dialogue and characterization, and some awesome ideas - loved Sulu's sword! - but the plot made no sense whatsoever, and had too much slapstick.
^ There is no way Michael Piller ripped off B5. Read The Making of Deep Space Nine from Pocket Books.
I got hooked during Star Trek's first run NBC broadcasts, so it's my overall favorite, though I'm receptive to all the subsequent tv/film spinoffs. Though every incarnation has individual things I like and dislike. One on-set thing I disliked was the development of a single helm position on the bridge, that I think first appeared on the USS Defiant. I missed the navigator position, even though it was a cost-saving move, because they didn't have to pay an N.D. Extra to sit punching buttons while a regular character had all the dialogue. It made sense to me for the Defiant due to its size, but then it carried into Voyager's bridge too. But when NX Enterprise, set 200 years earlier, had the same single pilot console, I was disappointed. I thought it should have foreshadowed NCC-1701's helm/nav design.
DS9 actually debuted a full month before B5... if you count that pilot movie that aired a full year before a full season anyways... So it would seem much more likely B5 ripped off DS9 than the reverse.... though forbid the likelihood of two separate entities come up with a similar concept.
I've never understood the ripped off accusations. So they are both set on a space station and they both have war arcs and religious themes. And?
Oh sorry, they were just all in a mind link virtual reality that broke and almost killed them... close enough.
Whoa! Chill, folks! I don't care if you're hardcore Niners or casual Fivers. I saw it that way, and I stand by my statement that the more DS9 copied JMS' style, the better they got. TNG avoided arcs, B5 built them, DS9 partially embraced them. If that offends you, tough. Don't spazz just because I don't buy the apologia. Now, can we get back to which Trek is people's favorite, and why? Although I do notice Galaxy Quest is missing from the list...
Why do people always assume others are "spazzing out" when we're just talking about a subject with varied opinions?
You'll have to travel 10 years back in time to my heyday of spazzing out on the internet. Good times.
Well this is Star Trek, I'm more likely to end up traveling back in time than to make it wherever I'm going
1. DS9 2. TNG (in a close second) 3. All the rest.......can't say I'm a big fan of any of the other shows.
Right, no way two people could ever have similar ideas at the same time. I think Ron Moore and JMS are just big nerds who always wanted their scifi to be more serialized. Even in episodes that didn't take place on the holodeck, the Voyager crew seemed to spend every waking moment on the holodeck. I'd say TNG and Voyager are equally guilty in that regard.
TOS. I grew up watching it in syndication in the 70s, and it is the only "true" Trek to me (although I like some episodes of TNG and ENT).
Voyager had few Holodeck episodes yes of course. TNG had many many holodeck episodes and are far more boring :P
DS9 and I'm sure the reasons have already been enumerated in great detail without me even needing to read this thread. It's interesting how TNG used to be second place in polls like this but since Abrams started making movies, TOS has taken over that slot with a vengeance.